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Re: GoG known as Jay Podcast Guest

Post by Xenophon » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:39 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
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UPCOMING OBLIVION

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Damn, dude, that was good!
Thank you, appreciate it.
I listened to this on my own, not realizing it was you. Great show! I read your piece on Cavalier Fusionism yesterday as well, without knowing it was you.

I'm going to need anything you're involved in in neon font so I'll know it's you. Stop being ableist.

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Re: GoG known as Jay Podcast Guest

Post by GloryofGreece » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:47 am

Hastur wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:58 am
GloryofGreece wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:53 am
Hastur wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:04 am


Yes it was. But IronicSockAccount is right. These aren't communists like during the Russian Revolution. They are hardly communists at all. They are a symptom of the upcoming post capitalist world order. In a way they are reactionary. Capitalism is loosing it's power to the network society. Communism was a part of capitalism. It was a utopian experiment built upon capitalist machinery.
The new paradigm shift is from the Capitalism to Informationalism, the emerging society of information networks, shaped by digital interactivity is as profound as the shift from feudalism to capitalism. The old elite is being replaced by the Netocrats and the new Proletariat is the Consumtariat.

You all need to read The Netocracts: Futurica Trilogy 1 by Alexander Bard and Jan Soderqvist. It was written 20 year ago but it must be one of the most prophetic books of later time. They foresaw the rise of Google, Facebook, Al-Qaida and Wikileaks. They also predicted fake news, media driven politics, social media censorship and cancel culture. I just reread it and its just amazing how much they got right.
How is BLM and Antifa not communist? Even communist of yesteryear could be described as "reacting" against capitalism but that doesn't make them reactionary. The people agitating today are nihilistic or communist or some sick twist of both. They are mostly atheist as well. They are also arrogantly scientific materialist. The far left seeks to control thought and language in a so far softer despotic way than back in the early 1900s.
Go to the BLM homepage. https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/ If you go to the donate page you see that the donations go to ActBlue. That is the Democratic Party. There is no BLM non-profit or other organization filing taxes for those donations. It's a front for the DNC. This is from their homepage:
BLM’s #WhatMatters2020 is a campaign aimed to maximize the impact of the BLM movement by galvanizing BLM supporters and allies to the polls in the 2020 U.S Presidential Election to build collective power and ensure candidates are held accountable for the issues that systematically and disproportionately impact Black and under-served communities across the nation.

BLM's #WhatMatters2020 will focus on issues concerning racial injustice, police brutality, criminal justice reform, Black immigration, economic injustice, LGBTQIA+ and human rights, environmental injustice, access to healthcare, access to quality education, and voting rights and suppression.

This initiative will inspire and motivate people to ask themselves and their candidates are you really addressing What Matters in 2020?
That is not communism. It's just part of Joe Biden's campaign. They want to get out the black vote because if they don't they are doomed come November.

The first wave of the protests was organized by them. The peaceful protests where people expressed their outrage over the killing of George Floyd.

Then came the second wave. They started the rioting and pillaging. They were organized by the far left. The aim was to scratch away the "thin veneer of civilization". By breaking store windows and driving away the police they showed that this time there would be no repercussion for criminal activity as long as you did it under the BLM banner.

That brought out the third wave. They are the poor inner city people who just acted as an opportunistic mob. Grabbing whatever they wanted to own and destroying everything they thought represented what they hated. These people are not political in any way.

You might call the second wavers communists. I guess they are mostly middle class white people. Antifa and Bernie bros. They probably call themselves socialists but they are really just LARPing.
The reason I say they are reactionary is because of their mostly nostalgic drive. They are trying to ignite some spirit of revolution were the workers are awakened and realizing their collective power by class consciousness they seize the means of production and bring about a socialist utopia.
That is trying to fight the last war. That is why I say they are reactionary.


The third wavers aren't the proletariat. They aren't factory workers producing the surplus that is making the bourgeoisie rich. That time is over. The new underclass is better named the consumertariat or the transfertariat if you want to properly describe their role in society. Their main role is to consume and they get their means from economic transfers.

The first vawe organizers understands this. This is their plantation. This is where they grow their voters. They call the inner city poor clients just like the powerful Romans did.

According to Bob Woodson in the last 50 years the government has spent $22 trillion on programs for the poor. 70% of that money goes not to the poor but to the people who work the programs. They don't care about solvable problems, only fundable problems. A lot of this money is distributed by black leaders that control these poor areas. 20% of whites with a college education works for the government. The same number for blacks is 60%. So you have black leaders giving money to black middle class civil servants that server the poor black community. That is what the voter plantation looks like and it's not built to solve any social issues. And it has nothing to do with communism.

Listen to this short clip from No Agenda.

Almost all of the communist in the russian revolution and french revolution were educated middling types. They had some leisure to protest, to write their filth, and to agitate the masses etc. People like Lenin and Trotsky were highly literate. The vanguard weren't the workers and that's one of the many ironies in communist history. The communist rarely are actual factory workers. Not really, not at first, no actually. This revolution isn't an exact simulacra but its similar enough. Most highly educated left leaning whites are atheist as well. Ringing any bells? BLM also has moved to go after churches and stain glass windows/icons etc. This is iconoclasm just like in the past. The essence of what I said is true. This will comedown between Christians and Atheist. Same as it ever was.
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Re: GoG known as Jay Podcast Guest

Post by GloryofGreece » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:54 am

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:39 am
GloryofGreece wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:42 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:05 pm

Damn, dude, that was good!
Thank you, appreciate it.
I listened to this on my own, not realizing it was you. Great show! I read your piece on Cavalier Fusionism yesterday as well, without knowing it was you.

I'm going to need anything you're involved in in neon font so I'll know it's you. Stop being ableist.
I have my own contributors writers page. It just isn't operational yet/technical issues. Thank you for reading my articles. I have many now. I'm going to try to get my independent podcast going that isn't quite as doxxy as being directly connected with ID, but that will take lots of time to come to fruition. We are all headed to the Gulag if we do not stop this now! deus autem nobiscum
https://identitydixie.com/2020/05/25/memories-of-pop/
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Re: GoG known as Jay Podcast Guest

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:17 am

Memories of Pop. +1

He never contracted out his duties....


The Patriarch wields power judiciously.


Love it.
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Re: GoG known as Jay Podcast Guest

Post by Hastur » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:17 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:47 am
Hastur wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:58 am
GloryofGreece wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:53 am


How is BLM and Antifa not communist? Even communist of yesteryear could be described as "reacting" against capitalism but that doesn't make them reactionary. The people agitating today are nihilistic or communist or some sick twist of both. They are mostly atheist as well. They are also arrogantly scientific materialist. The far left seeks to control thought and language in a so far softer despotic way than back in the early 1900s.
Go to the BLM homepage. https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/ If you go to the donate page you see that the donations go to ActBlue. That is the Democratic Party. There is no BLM non-profit or other organization filing taxes for those donations. It's a front for the DNC. This is from their homepage:
BLM’s #WhatMatters2020 is a campaign aimed to maximize the impact of the BLM movement by galvanizing BLM supporters and allies to the polls in the 2020 U.S Presidential Election to build collective power and ensure candidates are held accountable for the issues that systematically and disproportionately impact Black and under-served communities across the nation.

BLM's #WhatMatters2020 will focus on issues concerning racial injustice, police brutality, criminal justice reform, Black immigration, economic injustice, LGBTQIA+ and human rights, environmental injustice, access to healthcare, access to quality education, and voting rights and suppression.

This initiative will inspire and motivate people to ask themselves and their candidates are you really addressing What Matters in 2020?
That is not communism. It's just part of Joe Biden's campaign. They want to get out the black vote because if they don't they are doomed come November.

The first wave of the protests was organized by them. The peaceful protests where people expressed their outrage over the killing of George Floyd.

Then came the second wave. They started the rioting and pillaging. They were organized by the far left. The aim was to scratch away the "thin veneer of civilization". By breaking store windows and driving away the police they showed that this time there would be no repercussion for criminal activity as long as you did it under the BLM banner.

That brought out the third wave. They are the poor inner city people who just acted as an opportunistic mob. Grabbing whatever they wanted to own and destroying everything they thought represented what they hated. These people are not political in any way.

You might call the second wavers communists. I guess they are mostly middle class white people. Antifa and Bernie bros. They probably call themselves socialists but they are really just LARPing.
The reason I say they are reactionary is because of their mostly nostalgic drive. They are trying to ignite some spirit of revolution were the workers are awakened and realizing their collective power by class consciousness they seize the means of production and bring about a socialist utopia.
That is trying to fight the last war. That is why I say they are reactionary.


The third wavers aren't the proletariat. They aren't factory workers producing the surplus that is making the bourgeoisie rich. That time is over. The new underclass is better named the consumertariat or the transfertariat if you want to properly describe their role in society. Their main role is to consume and they get their means from economic transfers.

The first vawe organizers understands this. This is their plantation. This is where they grow their voters. They call the inner city poor clients just like the powerful Romans did.

According to Bob Woodson in the last 50 years the government has spent $22 trillion on programs for the poor. 70% of that money goes not to the poor but to the people who work the programs. They don't care about solvable problems, only fundable problems. A lot of this money is distributed by black leaders that control these poor areas. 20% of whites with a college education works for the government. The same number for blacks is 60%. So you have black leaders giving money to black middle class civil servants that server the poor black community. That is what the voter plantation looks like and it's not built to solve any social issues. And it has nothing to do with communism.

Listen to this short clip from No Agenda.

Almost all of the communist in the russian revolution and french revolution were educated middling types. They had some leisure to protest, to write their filth, and to agitate the masses etc. People like Lenin and Trotsky were highly literate. The vanguard weren't the workers and that's one of the many ironies in communist history. The communist rarely are actual factory workers. Not really, not at first, no actually. This revolution isn't an exact simulacra but its similar enough. Most highly educated left leaning whites are atheist as well. Ringing any bells? BLM also has moved to go after churches and stain glass windows/icons etc. This is iconoclasm just like in the past. The essence of what I said is true. This will comedown between Christians and Atheist. Same as it ever was.
This is nothing like those past revolutions. Those were led by mature established men that had spent years thinking and planning. This time is just a bunch of teen-age LARPERS. They have no power. Power is everything.
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Re: GoG known as Jay Podcast Guest

Post by GloryofGreece » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:49 pm

Hastur wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:17 pm
GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:47 am
Hastur wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:58 am


Go to the BLM homepage. https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/ If you go to the donate page you see that the donations go to ActBlue. That is the Democratic Party. There is no BLM non-profit or other organization filing taxes for those donations. It's a front for the DNC. This is from their homepage:



That is not communism. It's just part of Joe Biden's campaign. They want to get out the black vote because if they don't they are doomed come November.

The first wave of the protests was organized by them. The peaceful protests where people expressed their outrage over the killing of George Floyd.

Then came the second wave. They started the rioting and pillaging. They were organized by the far left. The aim was to scratch away the "thin veneer of civilization". By breaking store windows and driving away the police they showed that this time there would be no repercussion for criminal activity as long as you did it under the BLM banner.

That brought out the third wave. They are the poor inner city people who just acted as an opportunistic mob. Grabbing whatever they wanted to own and destroying everything they thought represented what they hated. These people are not political in any way.

You might call the second wavers communists. I guess they are mostly middle class white people. Antifa and Bernie bros. They probably call themselves socialists but they are really just LARPing.
The reason I say they are reactionary is because of their mostly nostalgic drive. They are trying to ignite some spirit of revolution were the workers are awakened and realizing their collective power by class consciousness they seize the means of production and bring about a socialist utopia.
That is trying to fight the last war. That is why I say they are reactionary.


The third wavers aren't the proletariat. They aren't factory workers producing the surplus that is making the bourgeoisie rich. That time is over. The new underclass is better named the consumertariat or the transfertariat if you want to properly describe their role in society. Their main role is to consume and they get their means from economic transfers.

The first vawe organizers understands this. This is their plantation. This is where they grow their voters. They call the inner city poor clients just like the powerful Romans did.

According to Bob Woodson in the last 50 years the government has spent $22 trillion on programs for the poor. 70% of that money goes not to the poor but to the people who work the programs. They don't care about solvable problems, only fundable problems. A lot of this money is distributed by black leaders that control these poor areas. 20% of whites with a college education works for the government. The same number for blacks is 60%. So you have black leaders giving money to black middle class civil servants that server the poor black community. That is what the voter plantation looks like and it's not built to solve any social issues. And it has nothing to do with communism.

Listen to this short clip from No Agenda.

Almost all of the communist in the russian revolution and french revolution were educated middling types. They had some leisure to protest, to write their filth, and to agitate the masses etc. People like Lenin and Trotsky were highly literate. The vanguard weren't the workers and that's one of the many ironies in communist history. The communist rarely are actual factory workers. Not really, not at first, no actually. This revolution isn't an exact simulacra but its similar enough. Most highly educated left leaning whites are atheist as well. Ringing any bells? BLM also has moved to go after churches and stain glass windows/icons etc. This is iconoclasm just like in the past. The essence of what I said is true. This will comedown between Christians and Atheist. Same as it ever was.
This is nothing like those past revolutions. Those were led by mature established men that had spent years thinking and planning. This time is just a bunch of teen-age LARPERS. They have no power. Power is everything.
Even the movie " Hunt " gets to the point that most of the white liberal establishment (who have power btw) are self loathing and inherently communist in their worldview . It's splitting hairs in my view, and there tons of non Christian " liberal " to " progressive to far far leftist " that are bowing (literally ) and kiss the ring of equity , multiculturalism, diversity, redistribute the wealth , iconoclasm etc. etc .
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Re: GoG known as Jay Podcast Guest

Post by Hastur » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:02 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:49 pm
Hastur wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:17 pm
GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:47 am
Almost all of the communist in the russian revolution and french revolution were educated middling types. They had some leisure to protest, to write their filth, and to agitate the masses etc. People like Lenin and Trotsky were highly literate. The vanguard weren't the workers and that's one of the many ironies in communist history. The communist rarely are actual factory workers. Not really, not at first, no actually. This revolution isn't an exact simulacra but its similar enough. Most highly educated left leaning whites are atheist as well. Ringing any bells? BLM also has moved to go after churches and stain glass windows/icons etc. This is iconoclasm just like in the past. The essence of what I said is true. This will comedown between Christians and Atheist. Same as it ever was.
This is nothing like those past revolutions. Those were led by mature established men that had spent years thinking and planning. This time is just a bunch of teen-age LARPERS. They have no power. Power is everything.
Even the movie " Hunt " gets to the point that most of the white liberal establishment (who have power btw) are self loathing and inherently communist in their worldview . It's splitting hairs in my view, and there tons of non Christian " liberal " to " progressive to far far leftist " that are bowing (literally ) and kiss the ring of equity , multiculturalism, diversity, redistribute the wealth , iconoclasm etc. etc .
Religion is also the last war. It was important for the feudal society. It was replaced during industrial age by the cult of representative government and the rise of individualism. Religion might become important again now that accepted truth via media and education is dying. But it will not be the old kind of religion. It will be apocalyptic cults like Isis and the climate change movement led by Greta. We need a new religion with a true vision.
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Hastur wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:02 pm
GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:49 pm
Hastur wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:17 pm


This is nothing like those past revolutions. Those were led by mature established men that had spent years thinking and planning. This time is just a bunch of teen-age LARPERS. They have no power. Power is everything.
Even the movie " Hunt " gets to the point that most of the white liberal establishment (who have power btw) are self loathing and inherently communist in their worldview . It's splitting hairs in my view, and there tons of non Christian " liberal " to " progressive to far far leftist " that are bowing (literally ) and kiss the ring of equity , multiculturalism, diversity, redistribute the wealth , iconoclasm etc. etc .
Religion is also the last war. It was important for the feudal society. It was replaced during industrial age by the cult of representative government and the rise of individualism. Religion might become important again now that accepted truth via media and education is dying. But it will not be the old kind of religion. It will be apocalyptic cults like Isis and the climate change movement led by Greta. We need a new religion with a true vision.
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Post by GloryofGreece » Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:52 pm

Hastur wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:02 pm
GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:49 pm
Hastur wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:17 pm


This is nothing like those past revolutions. Those were led by mature established men that had spent years thinking and planning. This time is just a bunch of teen-age LARPERS. They have no power. Power is everything.
Even the movie " Hunt " gets to the point that most of the white liberal establishment (who have power btw) are self loathing and inherently communist in their worldview . It's splitting hairs in my view, and there tons of non Christian " liberal " to " progressive to far far leftist " that are bowing (literally ) and kiss the ring of equity , multiculturalism, diversity, redistribute the wealth , iconoclasm etc. etc .
Religion is also the last war. It was important for the feudal society. It was replaced during industrial age by the cult of representative government and the rise of individualism. Religion might become important again now that accepted truth via media and education is dying. But it will not be the old kind of religion. It will be apocalyptic cults like Isis and the climate change movement led by Greta. We need a new religion with a true vision.
Christianity was almost snuffed out a couple of times and then it wasn't. What Scandinavian country are you from?
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Post by Hastur » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:31 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:52 pm
Hastur wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:02 pm
GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:49 pm

Even the movie " Hunt " gets to the point that most of the white liberal establishment (who have power btw) are self loathing and inherently communist in their worldview . It's splitting hairs in my view, and there tons of non Christian " liberal " to " progressive to far far leftist " that are bowing (literally ) and kiss the ring of equity , multiculturalism, diversity, redistribute the wealth , iconoclasm etc. etc .
Religion is also the last war. It was important for the feudal society. It was replaced during industrial age by the cult of representative government and the rise of individualism. Religion might become important again now that accepted truth via media and education is dying. But it will not be the old kind of religion. It will be apocalyptic cults like Isis and the climate change movement led by Greta. We need a new religion with a true vision.
Christianity was almost snuffed out a couple of times and then it wasn't. What Scandinavian country are you from?
Sweden. We were one of the last countries in Europe to become Christianized. We then had a reformation after about 700 years of popery. Most Swedes are still some kind of half pagans.
I believe all people are religious. No one is capable of living a life only based on some sort of rationality. Everyone simplifies their life by a set of heuristics. These are often picked up from the environment i which we live. Organized religion can become incredibly important in times when we can't trust the information we get from other sources. It can also be dangerous if left unopposed.
I'm an ironic Christian myself. I find the morals and teaching to be helpful and true to a large extent but I don't believe that Jesus died and was resurrected and that he came about by immaculate conception.
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