What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

User avatar
StCapps
Posts: 16879
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:59 am
Location: Hamilton, Ontario

Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by StCapps » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:08 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:06 am
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:59 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:44 am



Hookers & Blow
That is a good thing though.
Indeed, and don't forget Opium & Gambling
Degenerate Gambling FTW, America Fuck Yeah.
*yip*

heydaralon
Posts: 7571
Joined: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:54 pm

Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by heydaralon » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:09 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:06 am
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:59 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:44 am



Hookers & Blow
That is a good thing though.
Indeed, and don't forget Opium & Gambling
My ideal mix would be Opium and Hookers, with a little blow in case I have trouble getting it up from all the opium I would be smoking.
Shikata ga nai

heydaralon
Posts: 7571
Joined: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:54 pm

Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by heydaralon » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:10 am

Mainly just opium tbh.
Shikata ga nai

User avatar
StCapps
Posts: 16879
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:59 am
Location: Hamilton, Ontario

Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by StCapps » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:15 am

Pussy, Money, Weed.
S'all a nigga need.
*yip*

heydaralon
Posts: 7571
Joined: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:54 pm

Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by heydaralon » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:24 am

The Drug War is the single biggest enemy of American Liberty. We have some puritannical temperance faggots in our culture that have ruined the lives of many people because they didn't like their personal choices. So their solution was to lock them in cages for their own good. How that bullshit every flew in a supposed nation of Liberty I will never know. As an added benefit it created all this cartel and gang violence, which of course leads to more surveillance, policing, incarcertation and loss of freedom. A tyranny nanny state feedback loop. All because some people were getting high and minding their own business. Disgusting.
Shikata ga nai

User avatar
Hastur
Posts: 5297
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:43 am
Location: suiþiuþu

Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by Hastur » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:26 am

heydaralon wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:06 am
Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:47 am
One huge problem is the eternal youth culture. Westerners are just overgrown children at this stage. Why is the teenager the ideal? Teenagers don't know shit. We should strive for something higher. Something that is harder to attain. Enlightenment, endurance and perseverance that leads to achievements against hardship. Do you think the people who settled the West worshiped teenagers? Nope.
There are some folks who just love adversity for adversity's sake, because they think it builds their character. There are others who love adversity because they see it as a long journey to prosperity.

But we have prosperity, despite what Bernie faggots think. Poor people in America are fat. They have smartphones and gadgets that would seem like star trek to people 50 years ago.

So what now? We should needlessly make stuff hard so we can strive for the prosperity we already have?

Personally, I think collectively striving for "Enlightenment" sounds like some totalitarian type ideal. Many Americans are lazy stupid and weak. I am too. But, I also know that schemes to improve morality or re engineer man do not end very well. I'd rather have a free debauched nation than a puritanical and collectivist life spent in waiting for "enlightenment." I don't have kids. I love America but if it collapses after I die so be it.
That's why the west is being invaded by the barbarian hordes atm. Millions of them. They also want all the free and cheap stuff. They want to be fat, lazy and stupid and they want us to pay for it. Because of white privilege.

Good luck with that vision for the future. It's going to work great.
Image

An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur? - Axel Oxenstierna

Nie lügen die Menschen so viel wie nach einer Jagd, während eines Krieges oder vor Wahlen. - Otto von Bismarck

heydaralon
Posts: 7571
Joined: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:54 pm

Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by heydaralon » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:40 am

Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:26 am
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:06 am
Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:47 am
One huge problem is the eternal youth culture. Westerners are just overgrown children at this stage. Why is the teenager the ideal? Teenagers don't know shit. We should strive for something higher. Something that is harder to attain. Enlightenment, endurance and perseverance that leads to achievements against hardship. Do you think the people who settled the West worshiped teenagers? Nope.
There are some folks who just love adversity for adversity's sake, because they think it builds their character. There are others who love adversity because they see it as a long journey to prosperity.

But we have prosperity, despite what Bernie faggots think. Poor people in America are fat. They have smartphones and gadgets that would seem like star trek to people 50 years ago.

So what now? We should needlessly make stuff hard so we can strive for the prosperity we already have?

Personally, I think collectively striving for "Enlightenment" sounds like some totalitarian type ideal. Many Americans are lazy stupid and weak. I am too. But, I also know that schemes to improve morality or re engineer man do not end very well. I'd rather have a free debauched nation than a puritanical and collectivist life spent in waiting for "enlightenment." I don't have kids. I love America but if it collapses after I die so be it.
That's why the west is being invaded by the barbarian hordes atm. Millions of them. They also want all the free and cheap stuff. They want to be fat, lazy and stupid and they want us to pay for it. Because of white privilege.

Good luck with that vision for the future. It's going to work great.
The times make the man. The man doesn't make the times.

Can you think of a time in history where in a time of prosperity society somehow decided to "enlighten" itself? You are more familiar with history than I am, but I personally cannot.

Rather when times got bad, men would improve their characters to cope. Or maybe the better ones just survived while the weak ones died. Either way, prosperity breeds entropy in my opinion. Crusades to improve morality always end badly man. Think about the Temperance movement. Prohibition. Think about the ways in which the Nazis tried to improve their youth. National annihilation.

You should also be careful how you define "enlightenment." 70 years ago, many wise people thought it meant collectivization and state planned economies. Today, if you ask the "wisest" people in our society what enlightenment is they will tell you its lady boy social justice.

I agree that much of our culture is shit, and I hate young people including myself and their ideas (though mine are all correct) I am just leery of any kind of calls for moral and social improvement. They are usually trojan horses for nanny state Stalinism that makes shit worse.

Enlightenment starts with the individual, not the collective. Better yourself, and do not worry about what your neighbor is up to. Chances are, he is probably a stupid asshole that can't be helped anyway.


"I am not my brother's keeper."
-Cain
Shikata ga nai

User avatar
Hastur
Posts: 5297
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:43 am
Location: suiþiuþu

Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by Hastur » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:15 am

heydaralon wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:40 am
Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:26 am
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:06 am
There are some folks who just love adversity for adversity's sake, because they think it builds their character. There are others who love adversity because they see it as a long journey to prosperity.

But we have prosperity, despite what Bernie faggots think. Poor people in America are fat. They have smartphones and gadgets that would seem like star trek to people 50 years ago.

So what now? We should needlessly make stuff hard so we can strive for the prosperity we already have?

Personally, I think collectively striving for "Enlightenment" sounds like some totalitarian type ideal. Many Americans are lazy stupid and weak. I am too. But, I also know that schemes to improve morality or re engineer man do not end very well. I'd rather have a free debauched nation than a puritanical and collectivist life spent in waiting for "enlightenment." I don't have kids. I love America but if it collapses after I die so be it.
That's why the west is being invaded by the barbarian hordes atm. Millions of them. They also want all the free and cheap stuff. They want to be fat, lazy and stupid and they want us to pay for it. Because of white privilege.

Good luck with that vision for the future. It's going to work great.
The times make the man. The man doesn't make the times.

Can you think of a time in history where in a time of prosperity society somehow decided to "enlighten" itself? You are more familiar with history than I am, but I personally cannot.

Rather when times got bad, men would improve their characters to cope. Or maybe the better ones just survived while the weak ones died. Either way, prosperity breeds entropy in my opinion. Crusades to improve morality always end badly man. Think about the Temperance movement. Prohibition. Think about the ways in which the Nazis tried to improve their youth. National annihilation.

You should also be careful how you define "enlightenment." 70 years ago, many wise people thought it meant collectivization and state planned economies. Today, if you ask the "wisest" people in our society what enlightenment is they will tell you its lady boy social justice.

I agree that much of our culture is shit, and I hate young people including myself and their ideas (though mine are all correct) I am just leery of any kind of calls for moral and social improvement. They are usually trojan horses for nanny state Stalinism that makes shit worse.

Enlightenment starts with the individual, not the collective. Better yourself, and do not worry about what your neighbor is up to. Chances are, he is probably a stupid asshole that can't be helped anyway.
Enlightenment is a fickle term. It can mean so many different things. I'm thinking more of what we Germanics call Bildung. I don't think there is an English word for it.

The era that comes to mind is the time of the Prussian reforms in the 1800s. Check out Wilhelm von Humboldt. He had new ideas about education. Back then education was mostly about vocational training. von Humbolt changed that.
Image

An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur? - Axel Oxenstierna

Nie lügen die Menschen so viel wie nach einer Jagd, während eines Krieges oder vor Wahlen. - Otto von Bismarck

User avatar
Hastur
Posts: 5297
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:43 am
Location: suiþiuþu

Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by Hastur » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:29 am

What I'm trying to explain is the difference between an authentic phallic vision unified around a positive, beloved goal and a fake phallic vision unified around a hated object, an abject. Basically Nietzsche vs Rousseau.

Humans are a collective species. The individual is an illusion. No man is an island. You can try to drown it out with entertainment, drugs and porn but that will lead nowhere. It is only when working together as a group towards a goal that we can feel complete. The nuclear family is too small and the Nation is too big. The Dunbar's number is what we should be looking for.
Image

An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur? - Axel Oxenstierna

Nie lügen die Menschen so viel wie nach einer Jagd, während eines Krieges oder vor Wahlen. - Otto von Bismarck

heydaralon
Posts: 7571
Joined: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:54 pm

Re: What Book Are You Reading at the Moment?

Post by heydaralon » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:29 am

Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:15 am
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:40 am
Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:26 am


That's why the west is being invaded by the barbarian hordes atm. Millions of them. They also want all the free and cheap stuff. They want to be fat, lazy and stupid and they want us to pay for it. Because of white privilege.

Good luck with that vision for the future. It's going to work great.
The times make the man. The man doesn't make the times.

Can you think of a time in history where in a time of prosperity society somehow decided to "enlighten" itself? You are more familiar with history than I am, but I personally cannot.

Rather when times got bad, men would improve their characters to cope. Or maybe the better ones just survived while the weak ones died. Either way, prosperity breeds entropy in my opinion. Crusades to improve morality always end badly man. Think about the Temperance movement. Prohibition. Think about the ways in which the Nazis tried to improve their youth. National annihilation.

You should also be careful how you define "enlightenment." 70 years ago, many wise people thought it meant collectivization and state planned economies. Today, if you ask the "wisest" people in our society what enlightenment is they will tell you its lady boy social justice.

I agree that much of our culture is shit, and I hate young people including myself and their ideas (though mine are all correct) I am just leery of any kind of calls for moral and social improvement. They are usually trojan horses for nanny state Stalinism that makes shit worse.

Enlightenment starts with the individual, not the collective. Better yourself, and do not worry about what your neighbor is up to. Chances are, he is probably a stupid asshole that can't be helped anyway.
Enlightenment is a fickle term. It can mean so many different things. I'm thinking more of what we Germanics call Bildung. I don't think there is an English word for it.

The era that comes to mind is the time of the Prussian reforms in the 1800s. Check out Wilhelm von Humboldt. He had new ideas about education. Back then education was mostly about vocational training. von Humbolt changed that.
Is this the whole Kultur vs. Zivilization (might be spelled wrong I forget) idea? I thought bildung came from Schiller. Like wasn't bildung and that idea kind of anti enlightenment? The French just had their revolution and it horrified the proto Germans so they felt like you had to have some kind of strongly bound national character (kultur) before you could build complicated and cosmopolitan ideas upon it (zivilization).They felt that you can't build a globalized hodgepodge of cafe homo ideas without having a mature culture.

It makes sense. I hate French society passionately. Always been a nasty effete culture. But that Kultur stuff took Germany down a meandering path to Totalitarianism. I wouldn't say it was Schiller or whoevers fault, but you can kind of see where it leads if one isn't careful.
Shikata ga nai