The Fifth Column

[Montegriffo]

Don't jut take the BBC's word for it....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_ch ... ssessments

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Murad Abu Bilal, Khaled Naddaf and other Center for Documentation of Violations in Syria and Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCC) media staff went to Zamalka soon after the attacks to film and obtain other documentary evidence. Almost all the journalists died from inhalation of the neurotoxins, except Murad Abu Bilal, who was the only Zamalka LCC media member to survive.[196][197] The videos were published on YouTube, attracting worldwide media attention.[198]

Experts who have analysed the first video said it shows the strongest evidence yet consistent with the use of a lethal toxic agent. Visible symptoms reportedly included rolling eyes, foaming at the mouth, and tremors. There was at least one image of a child suffering miosis, the pin-point pupil effect associated with the nerve agent Sarin, a powerful neurotoxin reportedly used before in Syria. Ralph Trapp, a former scientist at the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, said the footage showed what a chemical weapons attack on a civilian area would look like, and went on to note "This is one of the first videos I've seen from Syria where the numbers start to make sense. If you have a gas attack you would expect large numbers of people, children and adults, to be affected, particularly if it's in a built-up area."[198]

Some experts, among them Jean Pascal Zanders, initially stated that evidence that sarin was used, as claimed by pro-rebel sources, was still lacking and highlighted the lack of second-hand contaminations typically associated with use of weapons-grade nerve agents: "I remain sceptical that it was a nerve agent like sarin. I would have expected to see more convulsions," he said. "The other thing that seems inconsistent with sarin is that, given the footage of first responders treating victims without proper protective equipment, you would expect to see considerable secondary casualties from contamination – which does not appear to be evident." However, after Zanders saw footage imminently after the attack, he changed his mind, saying: "The video footage and pictures this time are of a far better quality. You can clearly see the typical signs of asphyxiation, including a pinkish blueish tinge to the skin colour. There is one image of an adult woman where you can see the tell-tale blackish mark around her mouth, all of which suggests death from asphyxiation."[198] Zanders however cautioned that these symptoms covered a range of neurotoxicants, including some available for civilian use as pest control agents, and said that until the UN reported its analysis of samples, "I can't make a judgement. I have to keep an open mind."[199]

According to a report by The Daily Telegraph, "videos uploaded to YouTube by activists showed rows of motionless bodies and medics attending to patients apparently in the grip of seizures. In one piece of footage, a young boy appeared to be foaming at the mouth while convulsing."[84]

Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, a former commander of British Chemical and Biological counterterrorism forces,[200] told BBC that the images were very similar to previous incidents he had witnessed, although he could not verify the footage

[Speaker to Animals]

Wikipedia: the "source" anybody can edit.

[Montegriffo]

Wikipedia: the "source" anybody can edit.

Here, find your own source...
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=2013+ ... fAXtKAgdgN

None from Brietbart though so you may not find one to suit your fake narrative.....

[Speaker to Animals]

Scott Ritter, the guy who tried to expose the fake news about the Iraqi WMD program, weighs in on these fake chemical weapons attacks:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/syr ... f0a02fca4d

The doctor in the latest video was tried for terrorism in UK. Now he's a doctor for Al Qaeda, producing propaganda videos, apparently.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4egVuTRTF


Leading expert in the field of chemical weapons insists what we have been shown cannot be true.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_Vs2r ... F0Wjg/view

Figure 1 shows a man standing in the alleged sarin-release crater. He is wearing a honeycomb facemask that

is designed to filter small particles from the air. Other apparel on him is an open necked cloth shirt and what

appear to be medical exam gloves.

Two other men are standing in front of him (on the left in the photograph) also wearing honeycomb facemask’s

and medical exam gloves.

If there were any sarin present at this location when this photograph was taken everybody in the photograph

would have received a lethal or debilitating dose of sarin.

The fact that these people were dressed so inadequately either suggests a complete ignorance of the basic

measures needed to protect an individual from sarin poisoning, or that they knew that the site was not

seriously contaminated.

This is the crater that is the centerpiece evidence provided in the WHR for a sarin attack delivered by a Syrian

aircraft.

Figure 2 shows the location of the crater on a Google Earth map of the Northeast part of Khan Sheikun.

The white arrow labeled camera direction indicates the bore site of the camera when the photograph was

taken. The white dot connected to a line shows the approximate location of the camera when the photo was

taken. The direction the camera is looking is North Northeast.

Figure 3 shows a photograph of the same street and crater when it is unoccupied by people. This photograph

is taken from a slightly greater distance away from the crater but the bore site of the camera is in the same

direction – North Northeast.

Figure 4 shows the crater, probably shortly after the tampering occurred that is documented in Figure 1.

The camera bore site is downward into the crater and its azimuth is roughly East Northeast. Note that the

surgical gloves that can be seen on the ground behind the man in the crater in Figure 1 can be seen almost

unmoved in the photograph shown in Figure 4. This strongly suggests that the photograph was taken a

relatively short time after the tampering occurred.

Figure 5 shows the crater at a time that may have been before the tampering occurred. The bottom of the

crater looks rather different and the piece of pipe, which is clearly lying on top of the bottom of the crater in

Figure 4, now appears to be partially buried. The photograph in Figure 5 is taken with the bore site of the

camera looking roughly west.

Figure 6 shows a photograph of the crater, probably taken at about the same time as the photo in Figure 5,

with the azimuth of the bore site of the camera looking Southwest

[Speaker to Animals]

How many more times do we have to go through this dog and pony show before people realize this is a lie.


This time around, that the western governments and their media mouthpieces, are using Al Qaeda propaganda as a source to justify military strikes really jumps the shark. I can't believe there are still people gobbling up this garbage.

[Martin Hash]

These are people who want to justify their ticket on the Invade Train.

[Speaker to Animals]

These are people who want to justify their ticket on the Invade Train.

That's the Trump train now. I am off. There's a seat waiting for them if they want that.

[DrYouth]

The No Agenda podcast is sticking to the false flag theory... and they have presented some credible sources... although none as strong as the 5th Column interviewee....

And so far, I was willing to ride that train.... there are false flag possibilities here...

The Fifth Column interview lends strong credibility to the fair flag theory.

I'm gonna ride this out longer to take in all the info as it becomes available.

But the Centre for Research on Globalization won't be one of my go-to sources.

[Speaker to Animals]

Scott Ritter tears this MSM nonsense apart:

Even slick media training, however, cannot gloss over basic factual inconsistencies. Early on, the anti-Assad opposition media outlets were labeling the Khan Sheikhoun incident as a “Sarin nerve agent” attack; one doctor affiliated with Al Qaeda sent out images and commentary via social media that documented symptoms, such as dilated pupils, that he diagnosed as stemming from exposure to Sarin nerve agent. Sarin, however, is an odorless, colorless material, dispersed as either a liquid or vapor; eyewitnesses speak of a “pungent odor” and “blue-yellow” clouds, more indicative of chlorine gas.

And while American media outlets, such as CNN, have spoken of munitions “filled to the brim” with Sarin nerve agent being used at Khan Sheikhoun, there is simply no evidence cited by any source that can sustain such an account. Heartbreaking images of victims being treated by “White Helmet” rescuers have been cited as proof of Sarin-like symptoms, the medical viability of these images is in question; there are no images taken of victims at the scene of the attack. Instead, the video provided by the “White Helmets” is of decontamination and treatment carried out at a “White Helmet” base after the victims, either dead or injured, were transported there.

The lack of viable protective clothing worn by the “White Helmet” personnel while handling victims is another indication that the chemical in question was not military grade Sarin; if it were, the rescuers would themselves have become victims (some accounts speak of just this phenomena, but this occurred at the site of the attack, where the rescuers were overcome by a “pungent smelling” chemical – again, Sarin is odorless.)

More than 20 victims of the Khan Sheikhoun incident were transported to Turkish hospitals for care; three subsequently died. According to the Turkish Justice Minister, autopsies conducted on the bodies confirm that the cause of death was exposure to chemical agents. The World Health Organization has indicated that the symptoms of the Khan Sheikhoun victims are consistent with both Sarin and Chlorine exposure. American media outlets have latched onto the Turkish and WHO statements as “proof” of Syrian government involvement; however, any exposure to the chlorine/white phosphorous blend associated with Al Nusra chemical weapons would produce similar symptoms.

Moreover, if Al Nusra was replicating the type of low-grade Sarin it employed at Ghouta in 2013 at Khan Sheikhoun, it is highly likely that some of the victims in question would exhibit Sarin-like symptoms. Blood samples taken from the victims could provide a more precise readout of the specific chemical exposure involved; such samples have allegedly been collected by Al Nusra-affiliated personnel, and turned over to international investigators (the notion that any serious investigatory body would allow Al Nusra to provide forensic evidence in support of an investigation where it is one of only two potential culprits is mindboggling, but that is precisely what has happened). But the Trump administration chose to act before these samples could be processed, perhaps afraid that their results would not sustain the underlying allegation of the employment of Sarin by the Syrian air force.

Mainstream American media outlets have willingly and openly embraced a narrative provided by Al Qaeda affiliates whose record of using chemical weapons in Syria and distorting and manufacturing “evidence” to promote anti-Assad policies in the west, including regime change, is well documented. These outlets have made a deliberate decision to endorse the view of Al Qaeda over a narrative provided by Russian and Syrian government authorities without any effort to fact check either position. These actions, however, do not seem to shock the conscience of the American public; when it comes to Syria, the mainstream American media and its audience has long ago ceded the narrative to Al Qaeda and other Islamist anti-regime elements.

It's similar to his warnings before the Iraq War. That article is well worth the read.

[Okeefenokee]

The No Agenda podcast is sticking to the false flag theory... and they have presented some credible sources... although none as strong as the 5th Column interviewee....

And so far, I was willing to ride that train.... there are false flag possibilities here...

The Fifth Column interview lends strong credibility to the fair flag theory.

I'm gonna ride this out longer to take in all the info as it becomes available.

But the Centre for Research on Globalization won't be one of my go-to sources.

Also, it's been widely reported that the tests came back with mostly chlorine and only traces of sarin, but that expert they had on TFC was either unaware of this, or intentionally ignoring it. The presence of chlorine throws a wrench in the whole narrative.