Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:39 am

StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:10 pm
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:49 pm
GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:00 am
Technocracy is literally rule by " experts" well Communsit were very much into so called science , expertise, new man mumbo jumbo. Our technocrats are scientism run a muck. they like the Communsit believe in perfecting man and measuring everything even things that cannot be measured . Both are utopians and misguided.
Expertise doesn't mean scientific expertise, and Communistic claims of scientific materialism as applied to government certainly doesn't destroy the concept of expertise.

Frankly, all this mistrust of the very concept of expertise and elite skill sounds like the sort of leveling of the human experience Communists are known for.
Expertise and elite skill only go so far, overestimating them leads to the sort of leveling of the human experience Communists are known for

It is not mistrust of meritocracy as a concept, far from it, it's just that credentials and merit do not always align

Central planning by experts is not an acceptable substitute for liberty, and when the experts try to pretend it is, that is usually when most of the problem occurs, and it occurs quite often

To wit, The Best and The Brightest are overrated, especially when they think imposing central planning is a good idea, just because an expert is doing the planning
I've told you before, just saying "nuh-uh" followed by a string of randomly arranged words is not actually an argument.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:46 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:39 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:10 pm
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:49 pm


Expertise doesn't mean scientific expertise, and Communistic claims of scientific materialism as applied to government certainly doesn't destroy the concept of expertise.

Frankly, all this mistrust of the very concept of expertise and elite skill sounds like the sort of leveling of the human experience Communists are known for.
Expertise and elite skill only go so far, overestimating them leads to the sort of leveling of the human experience Communists are known for

It is not mistrust of meritocracy as a concept, far from it, it's just that credentials and merit do not always align

Central planning by experts is not an acceptable substitute for liberty, and when the experts try to pretend it is, that is usually when most of the problem occurs, and it occurs quite often

To wit, The Best and The Brightest are overrated, especially when they think imposing central planning is a good idea, just because an expert is doing the planning
I've told you before, just saying "nuh-uh" followed by a string of randomly arranged words is not actually an argument.
It is when your realize the words aren't randomly arranged at all, but your too dim to get it apparently

Reading comprehension, gets some
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:52 am

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by C-Mag » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:14 am

Fake Expert, hailed as an Expert, explaining why their predictions of doom were so wrong, without admitting they were wrong.


All worship the idols presented to you
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:15 am

Hash gets it, but he always was far more wyse than you HM
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:28 am

Not that Doug Ford can wave a wand to make things happen, but still doing a pretty good job

Looks the part, dresses the part, sounds the part, Big Daddy Ford

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:01 am

C-Mag wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:14 am
Fake Expert, hailed as an Expert, explaining why their predictions of doom were so wrong, without admitting they were wrong.


All worship the idols presented to you
Dang, you're hard to please.

When the models predict loads of death: SEE! These experts can't protect us from anything!

When the death toll appears to be shrinking: SEE! These experts can't predict anything right!
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:10 am

Predicting the future is hard, who knew?

People have an unrealistic expectations that it's even possible for a model to perfectly accurately predict something that is extremely complicated, with a lot of unknown variables, deep in the fog of war, far into the future

If anyone ever came up with such a model, and acted on it's predictions, they'd probably be the one of richest and most powerful people in the world, if not the most
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:16 pm

StCapps wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:10 am
Predicting the future is hard, who knew?

People have an unrealistic expectations that it's even possible for a model to perfectly accurately predict something that is extremely complicated, with a lot of unknown variables, deep in the fog of war, far into the future

If anyone ever came up with such a model, and acted on it's predictions, they'd probably be the one of richest and most powerful people in the world, if not the most
Not when you have had several previous epidemic scares in the last couple of decades. There is no excuse for the really poor preparations made by most governments and healthcare systems.
This is the real lesson we should be learning from South Korea.
The true cost of not being prepared is now being shown so hopefully in future there will be better stockpiling of PPE and increased testing capacity.
A few million spent on preparation could have saved trillions in losses to the economy.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:19 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:16 pm
StCapps wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:10 am
Predicting the future is hard, who knew?
People have an unrealistic expectations that it's even possible for a model to perfectly accurately predict something that is extremely complicated, with a lot of unknown variables, deep in the fog of war, far into the future

If anyone ever came up with such a model, and acted on it's predictions, they'd probably be the one of richest and most powerful people in the world, if not the most
Not when you have had several previous epidemic scares in the last couple of decades.
None of them compare to this one, fighting the last war is why many nations weren't prepared in the first place, while most of the nations that were hit hardest by ones that didn't compare where the most well prepared, this is not a coincidence
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