Revolutions

[DrYouth]

The War of Independence was successful because it did not overthrow the existing power structure.

The British Crown was not the power in the Colonies, the Virginia Company was the power in the colonies

The War of Independence kept the successful British imperial model, it just placed it under new management,

Bottom line, King George Washington was simply the better King, he beat George III at his own game.

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Maybe someday the Chinese will overthrow the Communists and impose the rule of law.

At which point they could become a serious competitor, but there's no sign that is at hand anytime soon.

I somehow missed this post...

And I nominate it for one of Smitty's greatest posts of all time.

>goldstar< >goldstar< >goldstar<

[Montegriffo]

Maybe Marie Antoinette should have claimed that you can ''have your cake and eat it'' as that nonsense appears easier to swallow than simply ''let them eat cake''.

I like cake but I wouldn't wreck a country over it either way.

[DrYouth]

What the two revolutions had in common was the same idealism...
The Enlightenment thinkers...
That wanted to move beyond Tyranny, Noble and Church Privilege.

This was holding back progress and the best interests of the individual...

What the French Revolution ran away with was... that somehow the State "owed" every man complete security.

The truth was that the state of affairs for the peasant and the working man were in fact often appalling...

But making the State the bussom of sustenance for every man could never work and is in fact degrading to the beneficiaries...

We have been learning that lesson ever since.

[heydaralon]

But making the State the bussom of sustenance for every man could never work and is in fact degrading to the beneficiaries...

We have been learning that lesson ever since.

No we haven't...lol. We have socialists on this board and all over America and the West.

[DrYouth]

But making the State the bussom of sustenance for every man could never work and is in fact degrading to the beneficiaries...

We have been learning that lesson ever since.

No we haven't...lol. We have socialists on this board and all over America and the West.

Those that have been paying attention.

The rest will have to go on repeating history.

[Hastur]

Both revolutions started out as liberal reform projects. America's never bothered with the social issues and populism.
Thank God Rousseau never made it over there.
Liberty above all.

[TheReal_ND]

Retard. It's thanks to a Swede we got civil rights. Do me a favor and fuck off when you don't know what you are talking about. You made everything worse. I suppose it should be some kind of conciliation you are going to lose your nation

[StCapps]

No taxation without representation.

[DrYouth]

America's never bothered with the social issues and populism.

America stayed one step ahead of the curve...
Social issues and populism definitely rippled through the USA...
But always shy of revolution.

So Wall Street remains ascendant.
And continues to bring prosperity and hegemonic dominance.
And the people continue to have their liberty to keep the fire to the feet of the "nobility" so as to keep them from strangling the golden goose with rents and "noble privilege"... and the libertarians keeps the people from strangling the golden goose with their entitlements and burocracies.

The spectre of the French Revolution keeps the AMerican Revolution from getting lazy and complacent.

[GloryofGreece]

We and most countries are Oligarchies. Republics always transform into oligarchies. The better option is Monarchy. But since we are a mostly secular or trying to be a secular nation monarchy in a modern form will not be what it was intended to be in the pre modern period. Jefferson had interesting ideas for the continent. Roughly having regions seceded from the original Union as they were more and more populated and functioning with what he called "ward republics" which were most similar to the cantons in Switzerland. So we'd have probably 4-6 Regional confederacies matching roughly the geographical regions of the U.S. Coastal Plain, Interior Lowlands, Great Plains, Rocky Mountains, etc. and within them cantons/wards.