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27 Education Reform

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Re: 27 Education Reform

Post by C-Mag » Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:52 pm

Excellent


We are currently victims of tradition in education, and convenience, but that's changing.

I believe public education as we know it is well on its way to collapsing. The system is too out of touch, too slow and too top heavy.

The largest line item in anyone's taxes is public education, and adults want change while the protectionists of the system double down.

We've gotten to a point where far too many teachers think they get to make parental decisions about students, going so far as to believe they decide what is good for students.

I'm going to enjoy watching the collapse, which ultimately will be due to economics.
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Re: 27 Education Reform

Post by Haumana » Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:25 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:52 pm
Excellent


We are currently victims of tradition in education, and convenience, but that's changing.

I believe public education as we know it is well on its way to collapsing. The system is too out of touch, too slow and too top heavy.

The largest line item in anyone's taxes is public education, and adults want change while the protectionists of the system double down.

We've gotten to a point where far too many teachers think they get to make parental decisions about students, going so far as to believe they decide what is good for students.

I'm going to enjoy watching the collapse, which ultimately will be due to economics.
The toppling of the teachers' union will be the canary in the coal mine. They go under, it'll all go under.

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Re: 27 Education Reform

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:52 pm

I think when the education money that is currently attached to the student can be used however the family wants, including home-schooling, will be the canary; there will probably still be teachers unions.
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Re: 27 Education Reform

Post by Haumana » Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:05 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:52 pm
I think when the education money that is currently attached to the student can be used however the family wants, including home-schooling, will be the canary; there will probably still be teachers unions.
If there is no longer a captive audience? Nevermind.

Vouchers is the beginning of the end for State schooling.

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Re: 27 Education Reform

Post by C-Mag » Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:20 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:52 pm
I think when the education money that is currently attached to the student can be used however the family wants, including home-schooling, will be the canary; there will probably still be teachers unions.
That's the trend, more and more states are doing at the demand of parents. As you point out, the market will find a way
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Re: 27 Education Reform

Post by C-Mag » Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:21 pm

Haumana wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:25 pm

The toppling of the teachers' union will be the canary in the coal mine. They go under, it'll all go under.
Honestly, I think the Teachers Union will outlast Public Education. It won't have any power, but it will remain.
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Re: 27 Education Reform

Post by Haumana » Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:33 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:21 pm
Haumana wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:25 pm

The toppling of the teachers' union will be the canary in the coal mine. They go under, it'll all go under.
Honestly, I think the Teachers Union will outlast Public Education. It won't have any power, but it will remain.
That is such a crazy thought to me. They are hand in glove. No public education why the need for a union? Interesting.

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Re: 27 Education Reform

Post by C-Mag » Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:40 am

Haumana wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:33 am
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:21 pm
Haumana wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:25 pm

The toppling of the teachers' union will be the canary in the coal mine. They go under, it'll all go under.
Honestly, I think the Teachers Union will outlast Public Education. It won't have any power, but it will remain.
That is such a crazy thought to me. They are hand in glove. No public education why the need for a union? Interesting.
We still have thousands of unions in the US, and they don't hardly matter at all. No Union is standing up for US workers from laborers being replaced by Latin illegal aliens to tech workers being replaced by East Indian workers.

Unions are solidly locked in with the Democrats. The Democrats with corporate boardrooms. Which makes Unions useless to workers, but still key in controlling voting.
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Re: 27 Education Reform

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am

There’s always going to be public education, probably the majority of students. That’s the socialist mindset so most women will still prefer it.
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