708 Marxism Went Underground

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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:21 pm

StCapps wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:46 pm
OK, Commie.
Yeah right, the multi-millionaire landlord is a commie because he wants the rich to pay taxes to support the less well off members of society.
Whenever you label someone a Marxist or a Commie for wanting to help others it is no better than labeling someone a Nazi because they want to reduce immigration.
You are so irony deficient you should take supplements...
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:53 pm

You should actually listen to the podcast, Monte. It has nothing to do with the argument Brew is posing.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:12 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:53 pm
You should actually listen to the podcast, Monte. It has nothing to do with the argument Brew is posing.
I have listened to it.
Likening equality, feminism and environmentalism to Marxism is just drivel.
All of them are perfectly viable in a capitalist system and labeling them as underground Marxism is as intellectually lazy as calling Trump a Fascist for wanting to stop illegal immigration.
You're making up your own definition of Marxist.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by brewster » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:14 pm

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The Oppressor vs. Oppressed worldview applied to social issues instead of economic issues is still fucking communism dumbass. It isn't only communism when applied to class, and all of a sudden not communism when applied to race, gender or sexual orientation. It's the same shit dude, and the results are just as bad if not worse when applied to social issues as when applied to economic issues.
Insisting that throwing a incorrect label around is accurate, just because it's so damn convenient to not have to create a new bogyman, does not make it so. Communism and Marxism is about money, and ownership of the means of production. Period. So you're at best being lazy, and worst being deliberately misleading, if you want to call someone who advocates for an oppressed class a Marxist or Communist. They're not. Sure, sometimes they want to spend other people's money, but do not want to stop those people from owning their businesses. It's like the other tradition of calling a kleptocracy Capitalism, because its not Communism. It's not, and doing so muddies the waters in ways certain people like and take advantage of, and is easier than really describing it.

It still amazes me that people who want equal treatment and rights for all citizens are called Commies. The Civil Rights Movement to end the awful Jim Crow system of oppression was labeled Commies. That's disgusting, and reveals just who you are, if you do so.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:25 pm

You Marxists should do your own podcasts.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:32 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:25 pm
You Marxists should do your own podcasts.
Now who's insulting other people and making Oral Illusions?
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:34 pm

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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by StCapps » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:33 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:21 pm
StCapps wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:46 pm
OK, Commie.
Yeah right, the multi-millionaire landlord is a commie because he wants the rich to pay taxes to support the less well off members of society.
Whenever you label someone a Marxist or a Commie for wanting to help others it is no better than labeling someone a Nazi because they want to reduce immigration.
You are so irony deficient you should take supplements...
Brewster is the commie.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by StCapps » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:35 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:12 pm
Likening equality, feminism and environmentalism to Marxism is just drivel.
It's 100% accurate. If you can't see the communism, it's because you're a commie.
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Re: 708 Marxism Went Underground

Post by brewster » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:51 pm

StCapps wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:35 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:12 pm
Likening equality, feminism and environmentalism to Marxism is just drivel.
It's 100% accurate. If you can't see the communism, it's because you're a commie.
LOL. Anything that fucks with white male hegemony and their unrestricted exploitation of everyone and everything they see is Communism. How convenient to be able to dump everything you dislike into one bucket and slap on a label that gets people worked up because that label actually means something bad, even though it's unrelated to what's in the bucket.

BTW, I'm the millionaire Monte was referring to, you must have missed that episode this show. According to 2020 America, there's no bigger capitalist demon than the greedy landlord, right? I'll roast their babies on a spit till they pay the rent, bwahahahaha.....
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