1. The Left starts with group-over-individual (socialism, Bernie Sanders).
2. Followed by the equalists (Marxism, Jill Stein).
3. And, finally, the revolutionaries (populist uprising, Black Panthers, SLA, Weather Underground, groups we haven't seen in 40 years).
p.s. Obama & Clinton ain't on The Left.
Spectrum of The Left
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Martin Hash
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Fife
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Re: Spectrum of The Left
Do you see the original "left" in this way?
I mean the Estates General, Tennis Court Oath, sort of "walk in and turn left to find us guys" left?
p.s. Ain't no POTUS we've had, ever, on the left, amirite? Wilson, maybe... although I see him turning right with some thugs to beat their goons down.
I mean the Estates General, Tennis Court Oath, sort of "walk in and turn left to find us guys" left?
p.s. Ain't no POTUS we've had, ever, on the left, amirite? Wilson, maybe... although I see him turning right with some thugs to beat their goons down.
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Weather Underground
Groups we haven't seen in forty years
Pick one. The Weather Underground are all professors now.
Groups we haven't seen in forty years
Pick one. The Weather Underground are all professors now.
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Fife
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Re: Spectrum of The Left
They are establishment now. You turning right, or left?TheReal_ND wrote:Weather Underground
Groups we haven't seen in forty years
Pick one. The Weather Underground are all professors now.
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Might makes right. Hm.
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Re: Spectrum of The Left
Is the idea that people move from 1 to 3 in the spectrum?
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Hey look another Viking...
It seems more of a degrees of extremism model.
But western liberals are pretty individualistic... so I don't really buy this model.
I think that soft liberals put the individual and the collective on an equal par... it's simply that their collective includes more out groups than conservatives are comfortable with.
On the right the group is important but it consists of the group to which that member is loyal and not others (immigrants for example).
It seems more of a degrees of extremism model.
But western liberals are pretty individualistic... so I don't really buy this model.
I think that soft liberals put the individual and the collective on an equal par... it's simply that their collective includes more out groups than conservatives are comfortable with.
On the right the group is important but it consists of the group to which that member is loyal and not others (immigrants for example).
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Martin Hash
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Re: Spectrum of The Left
I'm a liberal but I'm not on The Left because I'm a Liberty guy. The division between liberty & socialism, which is the start of The Left, is in the Democratic Party.DrYouth wrote:But western liberals are pretty individualistic... so I don't really buy this model.
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Martin Hash wrote:I'm a liberal but I'm not on The Left because I'm a Liberty guy. The division between liberty & socialism, which is the start of The Left, is in the Democratic Party.DrYouth wrote:But western liberals are pretty individualistic... so I don't really buy this model.
You're a classic liberal...
progressives, i.e., collectivists, have infested the DNC....they're pushing the SWJ / political correctness agenda to dismantle western culture, which is mostly against collectivism..... the DNC is a civil war right now between progressives and corporatistits...I think what few classical liberals remain will be shoved out of the party...free thinkers are too dangerous....
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Progressive or social justice warrior are about as effective an insult as nice guy or huge cock.Zlaxer wrote:Martin Hash wrote:I'm a liberal but I'm not on The Left because I'm a Liberty guy. The division between liberty & socialism, which is the start of The Left, is in the Democratic Party.DrYouth wrote:But western liberals are pretty individualistic... so I don't really buy this model.
You're a classic liberal...
progressives, i.e., collectivists, have infested the DNC....they're pushing the SWJ / political correctness agenda to dismantle western culture, which is mostly against collectivism..... the DNC is a civil war right now between progressives and corporatistits...I think what few classical liberals remain will be shoved out of the party...free thinkers are too dangerous....
Do I think fighting for social justice or progressing towards a better society are good things? Fuck yeah.
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