Trump's Positives So Far:

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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:11 pm

Well, even as a kid, I could tell it would be a pain in the ass to live in New York, I had no desire to live there, I liked my Toronto the Good just fine, but Toronto at the time, was like a small town compared to New York City, so coming from Toronto, New York City was a wild and exciting place to visit, that's what I miss about it, the adventure, the action, the hustle and bustle, the hurly burly, rough and ready, and making no apologies for it.
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Post by C-Mag » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:16 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:One of the most famous World Series of all time, that was the October for which Reggie Jackson earned the nickname "Mister October"

I remember it well, it was big in my household cause my dad such a huge Dodgers fan, and I was such a huge Reggie Jackson fan.
It was, that's what surprised me so much. I watched that series, but I don't remember the Fire in the Bronx
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Re: Trump's Positives So Far:

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:20 pm

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Smitty-48 wrote:One of the most famous World Series of all time, that was the October for which Reggie Jackson earned the nickname "Mister October"

I remember it well, it was big in my household cause my dad such a huge Dodgers fan, and I was such a huge Reggie Jackson fan.
It was, that's what surprised me so much. I watched that series, but I don't remember the Fire in the Bronx
In the moment, it didn't seem that significant, but the "Bronx is Burning" became the national narrative then, I mean, New York had been spiraling into the debt and dysfunction crisis since the late sixties, the significance was, it had now started to overrun the World Series live on TV.

Cosell saying that New York was burning down, was like Cronkite saying the war in Vietnam was lost.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:28 pm

See, for me, as a kid in Canada, New York was this mythical place, that only happened on TV and in comic books, so when my dad said we were going to visit New York, I was stunned, like, really, we can actually go there, and see it for real?

So when I got off the plane and saw New York, it was like, wow, it's real, and it's really like they said it would be. I had built up this image of New York, and it did not disappoint, it was even more extreme than I had imagined.

But honestly, I had no fear of it, my dad wasn't afraid, and if you're dad's not afraid, then you're not afraid, so my dad made New York City both exciting and fun.
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Post by heydaralon » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:03 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:My dad was the opposite, he said not to buy the hype, it's just people, going about their business, living their lives, just walk around like you belong, and nobody will bother you.

And he was right. Walked all over NYC, nobody ever bothered us, people were nice actually, typical Americans, always up for shooting the breeze, everybody liked sports, you could always talk sports in NYC, it was like the lingua franca.

My dad talked to everybody and anybody, in New York City, you can strike up a conversation on the street, that was normal in NYC, people weren't actually standoffish at all, they all had something to say, New Yorkers are gabby, or at least they were back then. If you didn't strike up a conversation with them, they would strike one up with you.

"Hey, you, let me ask you somethin', what'cho think about that? Is that right or what? See, even he says so, I told you so, listen to this guy, he knows what he's talkin' about. Whaddya mean no? You don't know, get outta here, get outta here I said, you have no idea, I'm telling you, this guy's telling you too, this guy here...what's your name? Ron? Ron is telling you, listen to Ron, you putz..."

Irish, Italians, Blacks and Jews, everybody was yappin at everybody in New York City, and anybody could join or be dragged in at any moment.
Sounds worse than Haiti... Glad I don't live there...
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Re: Trump's Positives So Far:

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:05 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:My dad was the opposite, he said not to buy the hype, it's just people, going about their business, living their lives, just walk around like you belong, and nobody will bother you.

And he was right. Walked all over NYC, nobody ever bothered us, people were nice actually, typical Americans, always up for shooting the breeze, everybody liked sports, you could always talk sports in NYC, it was like the lingua franca.

My dad talked to everybody and anybody, in New York City, you can strike up a conversation on the street, that was normal in NYC, people weren't actually standoffish at all, they all had something to say, New Yorkers are gabby, or at least they were back then. If you didn't strike up a conversation with them, they would strike one up with you.

"Hey, you, let me ask you somethin', what'cho think about that? Is that right or what? See, even he says so, I told you so, listen to this guy, he knows what he's talkin' about. Whaddya mean no? You don't know, get outta here, get outta here I said, you have no idea, I'm telling you, this guy's telling you too, this guy here...what's your name? Ron? Ron is telling you, listen to Ron, you putz..."

Irish, Italians, Blacks and Jews, everybody was yappin at everybody in New York City, and anybody could join or be dragged in at any moment.
Sounds worse than Haiti... Glad I don't live there...

Good thing you live in North Haiti, then.

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Re: Trump's Positives So Far:

Post by heydaralon » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:12 pm

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heydaralon wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:My dad was the opposite, he said not to buy the hype, it's just people, going about their business, living their lives, just walk around like you belong, and nobody will bother you.

And he was right. Walked all over NYC, nobody ever bothered us, people were nice actually, typical Americans, always up for shooting the breeze, everybody liked sports, you could always talk sports in NYC, it was like the lingua franca.

My dad talked to everybody and anybody, in New York City, you can strike up a conversation on the street, that was normal in NYC, people weren't actually standoffish at all, they all had something to say, New Yorkers are gabby, or at least they were back then. If you didn't strike up a conversation with them, they would strike one up with you.

"Hey, you, let me ask you somethin', what'cho think about that? Is that right or what? See, even he says so, I told you so, listen to this guy, he knows what he's talkin' about. Whaddya mean no? You don't know, get outta here, get outta here I said, you have no idea, I'm telling you, this guy's telling you too, this guy here...what's your name? Ron? Ron is telling you, listen to Ron, you putz..."

Irish, Italians, Blacks and Jews, everybody was yappin at everybody in New York City, and anybody could join or be dragged in at any moment.
Sounds worse than Haiti... Glad I don't live there...

Good thing you live in North Haiti, then.
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Re: Trump's Positives So Far:

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:48 pm

New York City in the 1970's was basically what happens when the Bernie Sanders types get control and then run out of options in terms of being bailed, New York City spent all the money, and then expected a combination of the banks and the federal government to bail them out, but both the banks and the federal government said no, and then New York rapidly descended into crisis, because they had spent way beyond their means, not just a little bit, they went way overboard, expecting that they would be bailed out, that the financial sector and the feds would have to bail them out, so when it didn't happen, the fall was compounded.

New York in the 60's had been taken over by the "democratic socialists" and they basically went around spending money on anything and everything to bring about a utopian New York, as if they had limitless funds, and then they found out that those funds were quite a bit more limited than they had surmised, but by then it was too late.

This was further compounded by the fact that before they started borrowing money like there was no tomorrow, they had raised taxes on the middle class, on the assumption that they would not leave New York, but that's exactly what they did, so the tax base left for the suburbs, and all that remained, was the wealthy who were refusing to loan them anymore money, and the poor people who the whole utopian plan was supposed to have saved in the first place.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:43 am

I was just there. The bronx is a filthy ghetto compared to long island. Anyone telling you otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

OMG but the traaains!

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Re: Trump's Positives So Far:

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:04 am

The Bronx is apparently the hottest market in New York right now.

Ihttp://www.ny1.com/nyc/bronx/news/2016/03/27/t ... ng-up.html

Crazy that the median listing in Mott Haven south is $704,000. That's the median, that's stunning.

The hipsters calling the South Bronx; "SoBro". lol.

The Bronx is back to 1963 crime levels? Talk about renaissance.

See this is the problem for the Bernie Bros, they have no perspective, they go on and on about how rough it is in America now and how great it was back in the good ol' days, but they weren't there, they don't remember the seventies, compared to the seventies, America is booming now.

The doomsayers talking about the "the collapse", that's kind of what New York was in the seventies, and into the eighties as well, Harlem and South Bronx weren't so much "ghettos" as they were bombed out, looked more like London in the blitz, housing projects were the nice places to live, the alternative was living in burnt out rubble, whole city blocks of rubble and burnt out buildings.

Thing is, rough as it was, there wasn't nearly as much caterwauling about doomsday back then, New Yorker's just carried on, you had to be tough to live in New York, they wore it like a badge of honor.

This is how the whole hip-hop thing caught on, it came out of New York, right out of the Bronx, and so all of a sudden rock n' rollers were a bunch of pansy fops, all the kids wanted to be rappers, cause rappers was tough, that became the tough guy image.

The kids in Regent Park in Toronto started fronting like they were from the Bronx, but I was like "I've been to the Bronx, this ain't the Bronx", and they would just double take "you've been to the Bronx?!"
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