What Would Constitute a "Meager Lifestyle"?

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Re: What Would Constitute a "Meager Lifestyle"?

Post by Ex-California » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:11 pm

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Fife wrote: I'm not a globalist; if the Sudan doesn't want to allow our citizens to come in and make commerce with them internally, too bad so sad. I think you also know that I would end 100% of foreign aid tonight if I had the power.
Yeah, let's fuck over the developing world and make it even more unpleasant to live anywhere but the developed world, that will sort out the refugee crisis over night. I mean, who is going to want to walk out of Africa or South America when they could just stay at home and starve to death.
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Re: What Would Constitute a "Meager Lifestyle"?

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:17 pm

California wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
Fife wrote: I'm not a globalist; if the Sudan doesn't want to allow our citizens to come in and make commerce with them internally, too bad so sad. I think you also know that I would end 100% of foreign aid tonight if I had the power.
Yeah, let's fuck over the developing world and make it even more unpleasant to live anywhere but the developed world, that will sort out the refugee crisis over night. I mean, who is going to want to walk out of Africa or South America when they could just stay at home and starve to death.
Once again selfish thinking makes the world a better place.......
We have to take care of ourselves first.
No you don't, you're fine. How many people died of thirst or hunger in the US last year?
You want to stop immigration? Sort out the fucked up countries, no more immigration, it's not rocket science. Ignore the problem and it only gets bigger.
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Post by Martin Hash » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:41 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
California wrote:We have to take care of ourselves first.
No you don't, you're fine. How many people died of thirst or hunger in the US last year?
You want to stop immigration? Sort out the fucked up countries, no more immigration, it's not rocket science. Ignore the problem and it only gets bigger.
Everybody has their own religion. Mine is "take care of ourselves first," like California. You, on the other hand, are rarin' to go intervening in other people's affairs because you know better. Go for it, see if we stop you.
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Re: What Would Constitute a "Meager Lifestyle"?

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:47 pm

http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries ... tatistics/

target is 0.7%

Percent of GDP to Aid
1 Sweden 0.99 %
2 Norway 0.88 %
3 Denmark 0.82 %
4 Netherlands 0.80 %
5 Belgium 0.50 %
6 United Kingdom 0.48 %
7 Ireland 0.43 %
8 Finland 0.43 %
9 Spain 0.43 %
10 Switzerland 0.42 %
11 Austria 0.42 %
12 Germany 0.38 %
13 France 0.38 %
14 Canada 0.32 %
15 Australia 0.29 %
16 New Zealand 0.27 %
17 Portugal 0.25 %
18 Italy 0.21 %
19 Greece 0.20 %
20 Japan 0.20 %
21 United States 0.19 %

So the US is already well behind the target and you want to reduce it further?
Welfare spending is about 20 times higher at home at around 4%, do you really think an extra 0.19% is going to make a difference.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:50 pm

Montegriffo wrote:http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries ... tatistics/

target is 0.7%

Percent of GDP to Aid
1 Sweden 0.99 %
2 Norway 0.88 %
3 Denmark 0.82 %
4 Netherlands 0.80 %
5 Belgium 0.50 %
6 United Kingdom 0.48 %
7 Ireland 0.43 %
8 Finland 0.43 %
9 Spain 0.43 %
10 Switzerland 0.42 %
11 Austria 0.42 %
12 Germany 0.38 %
13 France 0.38 %
14 Canada 0.32 %
15 Australia 0.29 %
16 New Zealand 0.27 %
17 Portugal 0.25 %
18 Italy 0.21 %
19 Greece 0.20 %
20 Japan 0.20 %
21 United States 0.19 %

So the US is already well behind the target and you want to reduce it further?
Factor in that we provide your national defense any time you want to compare europe to the US. You always forget that.
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Re: What Would Constitute a "Meager Lifestyle"?

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:03 pm

Okeefenokee wrote: Factor in that we provide your national defense any time you want to compare europe to the US. You always forget that.
Hey if you want to use some of that budget for foreign aid you will get no argument from me. The UK hits it's 2% target for defence spending, the fact you want to spend twice that to prop up the MIC is up to your governments to explain, not Europe.
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Re: What Would Constitute a "Meager Lifestyle"?

Post by Ex-California » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:05 pm

Montegriffo wrote:http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries ... tatistics/

target is 0.7%

Percent of GDP to Aid
1 Sweden 0.99 %
2 Norway 0.88 %
3 Denmark 0.82 %
4 Netherlands 0.80 %
5 Belgium 0.50 %
6 United Kingdom 0.48 %
7 Ireland 0.43 %
8 Finland 0.43 %
9 Spain 0.43 %
10 Switzerland 0.42 %
11 Austria 0.42 %
12 Germany 0.38 %
13 France 0.38 %
14 Canada 0.32 %
15 Australia 0.29 %
16 New Zealand 0.27 %
17 Portugal 0.25 %
18 Italy 0.21 %
19 Greece 0.20 %
20 Japan 0.20 %
21 United States 0.19 %

So the US is already well behind the target and you want to reduce it further?
Welfare spending is about 20 times higher at home at around 4%, do you really think an extra 0.19% is going to make a difference.

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0.0% or negative (e.g., tribute from the countries we protect) is the range I'm looking for
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Re: What Would Constitute a "Meager Lifestyle"?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:09 pm

Yeah!

What is the point of running a protection racket if papa doesn't get to wet his beak!
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: What Would Constitute a "Meager Lifestyle"?

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:18 pm

California wrote: 0.0% or negative (e.g., tribute from the countries we protect) is the range I'm looking for
What exactly are you protecting us from? In case you haven't noticed the cold war is over. If it's ISIS you are protecting us from, great job. Try dropping aid instead of bombs and do everyone a favour.
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Re: What Would Constitute a "Meager Lifestyle"?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:21 pm

That's not exactly fair. Britain and France maintain solid armed forces.