Examples of Virtual Civil War

[Martin Hash]

The VCW or whatever you want to call it, is really just a return to the normal state of affairs in America, the Second World War and associated Cold War aftermath was the aberration, but soon as the Soviets went away, it has gone back to les deux solitudes, and now it's basically back to the 1920's and Warren G. Trump & Co are demanding the proverbial "Return to Normalcy" all over again.

The Two America's locked in furious agitation, is the rule, the Cold War truce, was the exception.

There is truth here but there are modern twists.

First: those out of power can never overcome the status quo without changing the rules because the rules established the status quo in the first place. Because the rules have been in force for so long, many Americans up to my generation called them "The American Dream."
Second: abolition, suffrage, unionization, Communism, from 1850 and for a century afterwards was exactly your point.
Third: There's always been way more losers than winners, and losers "win" via Collectivism.

What's different now is "the World is flat" model: we are all connected, and more importantly, the losers are connected, and know their numbers are vast. For example, the Democratic Party is composed of women, minorities & weirdos, and they don't want or need anybody who was successful with the status quo, which means no White people, and especially no male White people.

[Smitty-48]

The VCW or whatever you want to call it, is really just a return to the normal state of affairs in America, the Second World War and associated Cold War aftermath was the aberration, but soon as the Soviets went away, it has gone back to les deux solitudes, and now it's basically back to the 1920's and Warren G. Trump & Co are demanding the proverbial "Return to Normalcy" all over again.

The Two America's locked in furious agitation, is the rule, the Cold War truce, was the exception.

There is truth here but there are modern twists.

First: those out of power can never overcome the status quo without changing the rules because the rules established the status quo in the first place. Because the rules have been in force for so long, many Americans up to my generation called them "The American Dream."
Second: abolition, suffrage, unionization, Communism, from 1850 and for a century afterwards was exactly your point.
Third: There's always been way more losers than winners, and losers "win" via Collectivism.

What's different now is "the World is flat" model: we are all connected, and more importantly, the losers are connected, and know their numbers are vast. For example, the Democratic Party is composed of women, minorities & weirdos, and they don't want or need anybody who was successful with the status quo, which means no White people, and especially no male White people.

Well that's why I say you're back to the 1920's, because in the wake of Versailles, that was a big world flattening epoch, and it caused the exact same sort of reaction against the flattening, but the Red Team-Blue Team war was eerily similar to what's going on now.

America First, Red Scare, Prohibition, and a huge Immigration crackdown against non Anglo Immigrants, is the narrative of the Roaring Twenties.

[Martin Hash]

The VCW or whatever you want to call it, is really just a return to the normal state of affairs in America, the Second World War and associated Cold War aftermath was the aberration, but soon as the Soviets went away, it has gone back to les deux solitudes, and now it's basically back to the 1920's and Warren G. Trump & Co are demanding the proverbial "Return to Normalcy" all over again.

The Two America's locked in furious agitation, is the rule, the Cold War truce, was the exception.

There is truth here but there are modern twists.

First: those out of power can never overcome the status quo without changing the rules because the rules established the status quo in the first place. Because the rules have been in force for so long, many Americans up to my generation called them "The American Dream."
Second: abolition, suffrage, unionization, Communism, from 1850 and for a century afterwards was exactly your point.
Third: There's always been way more losers than winners, and losers "win" via Collectivism.

What's different now is "the World is flat" model: we are all connected, and more importantly, the losers are connected, and know their numbers are vast. For example, the Democratic Party is composed of women, minorities & weirdos, and they don't want or need anybody who was successful with the status quo, which means no White people, and especially no male White people.

Well that's why I say you're back to the 1920's, because in the wake of Versailles, that was a big world flattening epoch, and it caused the exact same sort of reaction against the flattening, but the Red Team-Blue Team war was eerily similar to what's going on now.

America First, Red Scare, Prohibition, and a huge Immigration crackdown against non Anglo Immigrants, is the narrative of the Roaring Twenties.

This one is more dangerous because the losers always had the numbers but they didn't have the power except through violent revolution. This time because of width & breath of our corporations (Disney, Google, Facebook), MSM, and public education system, they actually have control of the narrative.

[Smitty-48]

Like, "globalization" is not something new that started with the fall of the Iron Curtain, it accelerated through the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries, reaches a zenith at Versailles in 1919, then the rest of the 20th century was basically a huge reactionary backlash against it, in a desperate attempt to the prop up the Westphalian order, culminating with the Iron Curtain, the fall of the Iron Curtain was simply returning to the situation in 1919.

[Smitty-48]

Disagree, it's not nearly as reactionary as it was in the 20's, Americans just have recency bias from the Cold War truce, the Cold War truce makes it seem bad, but compared to the 20's, it's pretty tame stuff these days.

[Martin Hash]

Martin Hash censoring hockey talk, that's declaring war, way to learn nothing from Kath's fuck ups.

Dude, calm down. Post something real in this thread. I'm ready for your pov.

[Martin Hash]

Disagree, it's not nearly as reactionary as it was in the 20's, Americans just have recency bias from the Cold War truce, the Cold War truce makes it seem bad, but compared to the 20's, it's pretty tame stuff these days.

There was no chance the patriarchy was going to fall in the '20s.

You could make the argument that Trump's election, plus the fact that we've been Red-pilled, means it won't happen now either, I'd go with that.

[Smitty-48]

When you think about just Prohibition for example, that was extreme, can you imagine them coming out next week and criminalizing beer, because "Return to Normalcy"? I mean, that was kooky assed totalitarian stuff, Prohibition, Liberty Nation basically went crazy in the 1920's.

[Martin Hash]

When you think about just Prohibition for example, that was extreme, can you imagine them coming out next week and criminalizing beer, because "Return to Normalcy"? I mean, that was kooky assed totalitarian stuff, Prohibition, Liberty Nation basically went crazy in the 1920's.

This seems to all lead back to women, and it makes sense that it does.

[Smitty-48]

Disagree, it's not nearly as reactionary as it was in the 20's, Americans just have recency bias from the Cold War truce, the Cold War truce makes it seem bad, but compared to the 20's, it's pretty tame stuff these days.

There was no chance the patriarchy was going to fall in the '20s.

You could make the argument that Trump's election, plus the fact that we've been Red-pilled, means it won't happen now either, I'd go with that.

Please, they were hysterical because they thought the republic itself was going to fall to a Bolshevik revolution, and they were going around and rounding people up and putting them in the proverbial FEMA camps in terror of it.

It's fuck all these days compared to the 20's, they were completely hysterical back then, now it's just people lipping off on the internet, but actually doing nothing at all.