Abortion: Liberty First

[Martin Hash]

I've framed the abortion issue as a competing liberty issue, mother's liberty trumps fetus unachieved-liberty, but there's an even more obvious liberty calculus example: mandatory birth control. If Anti-abortionists really thought that abortion was the primary evil, they should be promoting birth control in the drinking water, or "you bleed, you get IUDed."

[K@th]

I'd be happy if they'd just recognize that teenagers are gonna teenager. Education is the key, here. They are against anything but abstinence training, though, so they exacerbate the problem by attempting to keep kids dumb.

Teens have been fucking since teens were invented. This 'aint rocket science. Teach them how to be safe. I had this chapter sophomore year in HS health class. We had one girl have a baby in our class of 444, and she chose that, intentionally. (She was odd.)

No brainer, IMO.

[Okeefenokee]

Both of you are disgusting people.

[TheReal_ND]

I support eugenics if it involves the betterment of the Human race. I despise the place it has ended up in. A free pass for people to have as much sexual liberation as they want. Fuck them.

[Martin Hash]

Hey, free love is a good thing, it’s free babies that cause the problem.

[Fife]

Put em out of their misery early, eh?

[C-Mag]

I support eugenics if it involves the betterment of the Human race.

Yeah, we could really improve society if we got rid of the those that can't keep up. We'll target our eugenics programs to poor and low performing minority communities. Fewer poor performers = better society.

[TheReal_ND]

Of course it would. This seems obvious to me at least. I would propose a voluntary basis such as reduced prison sentences or tax money hand outs. This seems to bridge the ethics of a program such as this.

[C-Mag]

No solution to this issue until we as a society decide exactly when life exists.

[Martin Hash]

No solution to this issue until we as a society decide exactly when life exists.

We did.