The Thought Police

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The Thought Police

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:31 am

As always, the attempt by The Left to install their values as your values is simply another bid for control. They want to define virtue to things they have an advantage in. Instead of aspiration, patriotism & liberty, values of the status quo, they espouse enlightenment, inclusivity & equality. These goals are often in complete conflict, so if The Thought Police agenda is adopted, we will be routed. Identifying the enemy is the first step in defeating it so consider yourselves warned.
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Re: The Thought Police

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:38 am

Martin Hash wrote:As always, the attempt by The Left to install their values as your values is simply another bid for control. They want to define virtue to things they have an advantage in. Instead of aspiration, patriotism & liberty, values of the status quo, they espouse enlightenment, inclusivity & equality. These goals are often in complete conflict, so if The Thought Police agenda is adopted, we will be routed. Identifying the enemy is the first step in defeating it so consider yourselves warned.
How exactly are those values in conflict? It's only the media puppets and MHF loonys believing that they're incompatible, based on the crises du' jour.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: The Thought Police

Post by Fife » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:43 am

“As he once wrote of Kipling, his own enduring influence can be measured by a number of terms and phrases—doublethink, thought police, 'Some animals are more equal than others'—that he embedded in our language and in our minds. In Orwell's own mind there was an inextricable connection between language and truth, a conviction that by using plain and unambiguous words one could forbid oneself the comfort of certain falsehoods and delusions. Every time you hear a piece of psychobabble or propaganda—'people's princess,' say, or 'collateral damage,' or 'peace initiative'—it is good to have a well-thumbed collection of his essays nearby. His main enemy in discourse was euphemism, just as his main enemy in practice was the abuse of power, and (more important) the slavish willingness of people to submit to it.”
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Re: The Thought Police

Post by Fife » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:45 am

Martin Hash wrote:As always, the attempt by The Left to install their values as your values is simply another bid for control. They want to define virtue to things they have an advantage in. Instead of aspiration, patriotism & liberty, values of the status quo, they espouse enlightenment, inclusivity & equality. These goals are often in complete conflict, so if The Thought Police agenda is adopted, we will be routed. Identifying the enemy is the first step in defeating it so consider yourselves warned.

The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.

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Re: The Thought Police

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:24 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:How exactly are those values in conflict?
Enlightenment is often an excuse to forsake ambition.
inclusivity without weasleword statutes to enforce it is a hollowed out word.
Equality is the enemy of liberty whenever it is enacted.

But even if the tightrope could be walked, The Left makes these catspaws the overriding goal. In America, liberty should override, but we are not fighting back hard enough.
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Re: The Thought Police

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:27 am

Martin Hash wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:How exactly are those values in conflict?
Enlightenment is often an excuse to forsake ambition.
inclusivity without weasleword statutes to enforce it is a hollowed out word.
Equality is the enemy of liberty whenever it is enacted.

But even if the tightrope could be walked, The Left makes these catspaws the overriding goal. In America, liberty should override, but we are not fighting back hard enough.
I'm beginning to wonder if older American families have forgotten how to fight - the new ones usually come from shit-hole 3-rd world countries where stat-ism is the norm - so they don't know any better - yet another reason the left loves 3rd worlders - easy to buy and control.

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Re: The Thought Police

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:36 am

Martin Hash wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:How exactly are those values in conflict?
Enlightenment is often an excuse to forsake ambition.
inclusivity without weasleword statutes to enforce it is a hollowed out word.
Equality is the enemy of liberty whenever it is enacted.

But even if the tightrope could be walked, The Left makes these catspaws the overriding goal. In America, liberty should override, but we are not fighting back hard enough.
I agree that those are possible outcomes to a blind pursuit of those goals. But they are not a necessary result.

Enlightenment could just as easily mean to embrace new knowledge, and new ways of doing things - pursuing progress.
Inclusivity, the necessary antidote to Exclusivity and oppression.
Equality, the fundamental dignity that should be afforded to any human being, regardless of background.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: The Thought Police

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:05 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Equality, the fundamental dignity that should be afforded to any human being, regardless of background.
Where R U getting this?
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Re: The Thought Police

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:10 am

Martin Hash wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Equality, the fundamental dignity that should be afforded to any human being, regardless of background.
Where R U getting this?
Where R U getting your idea of it?

Could you be super-imposing the most negative possible aspects of Affirmative Action and Communism upon a simple term, in order to score points as a profound thinker, by attaching them to the word itself?
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Re: The Thought Police

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:11 am

Lockeanists.