Minimum Wage Sucks Because

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by DBTrek » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:02 am

No one has to work for Bezos or buy Amazon stock.

But free association isn’t enough for the left ... they want what he has. And they deserve it, because talking points A, B, C, D, etc, etc.

Except they don’t actually deserve it, they’re just a bunch of envious, greedy, victimhood-peddling, sophists, who think they can take his stuff if they promise to distribute it widely enough among whatever gang they can pull onboard.

Extortion is extortion. Gathering a mob behind you with inflammatory rhetoric so you can take other people’s shit is nothing new. Sometimes it’s witch trials, sometimes it’s liquidating kulaks, sometimes it’s a group of Crips who would really hate to see something terrible happen to your weave shop.

Mobs have been in the extortion game forever, and Democrats are pretty skilled at mob extortion at this point. Gotta take Bezos’s wealth because of “wealth gap”. Gotta take energy sectors wealth because of “climate change”, gotta take Pepsi and Coke’s wealth because “health impact”, etc. Rally the mob with stories, plunder the coffers.

Same as it ever was.
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:27 am

The min wage issue is bullshit because welfare makes low wages possible.

You have no concept of how shit really works. Providing government assistance to people who work drives down wages. Stop doing that shit and few adults will choose to work for 8.00 per hour if that means no food stamps and other assistance. Employers get away with this shit because tax payers are partially subsidizing their labor pool.

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:34 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:27 am
The min wage issue is bullshit because welfare makes low wages possible.

You have no concept of how shit really works. Providing government assistance to people who work drives down wages. Stop doing that shit and few adults will choose to work for 8.00 per hour if that means no food stamps and other assistance. Employers get away with this shit because tax payers are partially subsidizing their labor pool.
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by DBTrek » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:39 am

We’ve never disagreed on the need to end most government subsidies, both corporate and individual. The difference is I don’t try to leverage corporate subsidies into an argument for widespread wealth redistribution while conveniently ignoring all the subsidies 48% of Americans are enjoying.

It is precisely because I *do* understand how shit works that you can’t snowball me into the “let’s take Jeff’s shit” cult. You and Jeff are both taking my shit. Taking more of Jeff’s shit so the government can have most of it and you might get a scrap doesn’t solve my problems. Cutting off the subsidies to both of you solves my problems.

... with the exception of survival-level safety nets, which any American may need access to from time to time. That’s fine.
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:40 am

I didn't say end welfare. I said stop subsidizing Jeff Bezos' business. It's not just minimum wage welfare workers either. It's the subsidies to build his facilities and the tax breaks. The guy probably has operating costs slashed in half. He pays zero taxes to boot. Then there is the little fact that the USPS is actually losing money shipping his products. That's a subsidy right there.

That's not capitalism. That's socialism for the corporations and wage slavery for everybody else. Stop being such a fucking shekel cuck.

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by DBTrek » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:43 am

The guy who doesn’t labor, but is constantly trying to justify taking everyone else’s money because “they don’t pay enough taxes” (how much tax do you pay again?), is calling the working stiffs “shekel Cucks”.
:lol:

Quit lusting after your neighbor’s shekels, Mammon hound.
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:44 am

Subsidized buildings and tax breaks.
Supported by the New York governor, Andrew Cuomo, and the mayor, Bill de Blasio, the plan has faced a cascade of opposition from elected officials, activists and unions, angry that the company is set to get up to $3bn in tax breaks and subsidies.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ders-plans

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:45 am

Subsidized labor.
Amazon employs over 6,000 workers in the state, according to the report that looked at data from August 2017. In that month alone, 700 workers received benefits, meaning that one in every 10 of those locals were beneficiaries of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). The report revealed that Amazon warehouses also receive significant state and local subsidies.

"The state and local tax incentives Amazon receives doesn’t include the tens of thousands of dollars its Ohio workers need each month in food benefits," Zach Schiller, a research director at Policy Matters Ohio, said in a release on January 5.
https://www.newsweek.com/jeff-bezos-ama ... mps-782714

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by DBTrek » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:46 am

“When we don’t take $3bn in taxes, that means we gave it to you”

Clearly I’m the one who doesn’t understand economics. How are you and AoC going to “spend” that $3bn tax break you didn’t “give” to Amazon ... lulz.
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