Minimum Wage Sucks Because

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed May 03, 2017 12:29 am

Martin Hash wrote:Google is your friend. "Small businesses represent 99.7 percent of all employers."

Ma & Pa don't owe you mutterfukkers a living.
That is all fine and good. What I don't understand is where the money is coming from to pay for my impressment on the state's clean-up gangs if the tax base is hollowed out so as 'ma & pa' can pay me in scrip.

Is the state just printing money to pay me, and then taxing a portion to pay me tomorrow? Meanwhile every private employer is working out a different form of compensation with wildly fluctuating exchange values... how is this a functioning economy?

How can you deracinate wage protections and build a general fund from taxes for a safety net at the same time?
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed May 03, 2017 6:07 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Google is your friend. "Small businesses represent 99.7 percent of all employers."

Ma & Pa don't owe you mutterfukkers a living.
That is all fine and good. What I don't understand is where the money is coming from to pay for my impressment on the state's clean-up gangs if the tax base is hollowed out so as 'ma & pa' can pay me in scrip.

Is the state just printing money to pay me, and then taxing a portion to pay me tomorrow? Meanwhile every private employer is working out a different form of compensation with wildly fluctuating exchange values... how is this a functioning economy?

How can you deracinate wage protections and build a general fund from taxes for a safety net at the same time?
Simple. Just tax the shit out of the guy making $.10/hr for flipping burgers, and give it to the guy making $.30/day putting cars together. :twisted:
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed May 03, 2017 6:15 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Google is your friend. "Small businesses represent 99.7 percent of all employers."

Ma & Pa don't owe you mutterfukkers a living.
That is all fine and good. What I don't understand is where the money is coming from to pay for my impressment on the state's clean-up gangs if the tax base is hollowed out so as 'ma & pa' can pay me in scrip.

Is the state just printing money to pay me, and then taxing a portion to pay me tomorrow? Meanwhile every private employer is working out a different form of compensation with wildly fluctuating exchange values... how is this a functioning economy?

How can you deracinate wage protections and build a general fund from taxes for a safety net at the same time?
Simple. Just tax the shit out of the guy making $.10/hr for flipping burgers, and give it to the guy making $.30/day putting cars together. :twisted:
This is why I didn't study math... I'm just no darn good at numbers.
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Martin Hash » Wed May 03, 2017 7:18 am

People under $50K shouldn't be paying taxes at all, and certainly shouldn't be paying taxes on the first dollar they earn. 99.7% of business in small business means that all those people must pay Self-Employment tax on top of their 10% rate (most small businesses make squat, maybe $20K a year) so their real tax rate is 20%. The wealthiest people in this nation take all their money as Longterm Capital Gains, so they pay 15%. What a fucking sorry state of affairs.

This happens because the antitax people will give up anything to get a couple dollars for themselves.
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Martin Hash » Wed May 03, 2017 7:21 am

It doesn't make any difference what you're paid an hour as long as the Social Safety Net catches you. The idea is for everyone to have jobs. Only half the nation will have careers.
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed May 03, 2017 7:25 am

Martin Hash wrote:People under $50K shouldn't be paying taxes at all, and certainly shouldn't be paying taxes on the first dollar they earn. 99.7% of business in small business means that all those people must pay Self-Employment tax on top of their 10% rate (most small businesses make squat, maybe $20K a year) so their real tax rate is 20%. The wealthiest people in this nation take all their money as Longterm Capital Gains, so they pay 15%. What a fucking sorry state of affairs.

This happens because the antitax people will give up anything to get a couple dollars for themselves.
Yeah, it's funny how easy it is to get people to vote themselves into slavery...
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Martin Hash » Wed May 03, 2017 7:37 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:People under $50K shouldn't be paying taxes at all, and certainly shouldn't be paying taxes on the first dollar they earn. 99.7% of business in small business means that all those people must pay Self-Employment tax on top of their 10% rate (most small businesses make squat, maybe $20K a year) so their real tax rate is 20%. The wealthiest people in this nation take all their money as Longterm Capital Gains, so they pay 15%. What a fucking sorry state of affairs.

This happens because the antitax people will give up anything to get a couple dollars for themselves.
Yeah, it's funny how easy it is to get people to vote themselves into slavery...
More likely, vote away their liberty. (Socialism is coming, you should be happy.)
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed May 03, 2017 7:45 am

Martin Hash wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:People under $50K shouldn't be paying taxes at all, and certainly shouldn't be paying taxes on the first dollar they earn. 99.7% of business in small business means that all those people must pay Self-Employment tax on top of their 10% rate (most small businesses make squat, maybe $20K a year) so their real tax rate is 20%. The wealthiest people in this nation take all their money as Longterm Capital Gains, so they pay 15%. What a fucking sorry state of affairs.

This happens because the antitax people will give up anything to get a couple dollars for themselves.
Yeah, it's funny how easy it is to get people to vote themselves into slavery...
More likely, vote away their liberty. (Socialism is coming, you should be happy.)
I would be, if it weren't accompanied by a wave of totalitarianism, xenophobia, and blatant Stupid.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by Martin Hash » Wed May 03, 2017 7:46 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Yeah, it's funny how easy it is to get people to vote themselves into slavery...
More likely, vote away their liberty. (Socialism is coming, you should be happy.)
I would be, if it weren't accompanied by a wave of totalitarianism, xenophobia, and blatant Stupid.
The road to socialism.

p.s. America, the only Liberty Nation in the world, is one-too-many Liberty Nations for the socialists living here. For their own selfish interests, they would rather take away the only Liberty Nation so that they don't have to go through the trouble of moving to Canada.
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Re: Minimum Wage Sucks Because

Post by K@th » Wed May 03, 2017 7:48 am

Martin Hash wrote: The Social Safety Net, paid for out of the General Fund, is there to make sure you live a comfortable though possibly meager life. There are a whole lot of folks who just want to work their 8 & get high everyday.
Do you really believe that society should pay wages while employers pay people in coupons? You're literally okay that we now have more jobs that pay shit than at any other point in our history, that we have to provide welfare to people working full time jobs?

When everyone is making coupons and nobody has any money to pay taxes or buy any goods, who will provide the safety net?
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