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Re: Responsibility

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:03 pm

You can't say any of that around feminists: they won't engage in any conversation but "equality."
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Re: Responsibility

Post by K@th » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:05 pm

Nerd likes to cuddle. I don't. It's our biggest problem, relationship wise, so not complaining. I do like being in the kitchen more than he does, so there's that. I appreciate that he likes sweeping the floors and cleaning toilets.

We are not the same. That would be SOOOOOOO boring. We compliment each other beautifully. Except for the cuddling. Bah.
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Re: Responsibility

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:07 pm

Kath wrote:Nerd likes to cuddle. I don't. It's our biggest problem, relationship wise, so not complaining. I do like being in the kitchen more than he does, so there's that. I appreciate that he likes sweeping the floors and cleaning toilets.

We are not the same. That would be SOOOOOOO boring. We compliment each other beautifully. Except for the cuddling. Bah.
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Re: Responsibility

Post by MilSpecs » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:28 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:
Martin Hash wrote: A million years of evolution.
Which produced a perfect dual-component coping machine. I believe in marriage. I don't believe that all productivity must depend on externally defined roles. And that actually wouldn't work, because successful partnerships depend on the ability to pick up for each other. Especially as we age.
I'll repeat myself: my opinions and insight are good. If I'm saying something that you disagree with, odds are it's you who need to rethink. I'm logical & rational, I've written it all down, and I continue to evolve the concepts. Whatever preconceptions and self-interest causes you to push back against my advice so hard, stop. Listen to me.

p.s. You keep reading hidden meaning into what I'm writing: I say men & women are not equal, you hear subjugation or exclusion. I certainly don't subjugate or exclude the women around me, just the opposite if anything, but I do keep expectations real.
I listen to what you say. You haven't given me advice on the sexes, though, which would be kinda a waste of time as I'm not exactly looking for a new relationship and my manager is so much younger than me that age is a greater barrier than gender. I've also been married for a long time to what you probably would call the king of the 7th grade gym. Which I will never understand in this lifetime because he's pretty devoted to helping other people, while brooking no dissent. Huge dichotomy to me but I actually do accept it as a gender difference. That said, I hear subjugation in your voice. If you are correct, then you see it as part of the game. I see it as a slight which must be avenged. :twisted:
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Re: Responsibility

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:38 pm

MilSpecs wrote:That said, I hear subjugation in your voice. If you are correct, then you see it as part of the game. I see it as a slight which must be avenged. :twisted:
Thar's the problem. Men are mostly still clueless that they are at war.

p.s. I don't know your husband. I'd have to be in a room with him and other men for a couple hours to tell.
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Re: Responsibility

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:52 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:
Which produced a perfect dual-component coping machine. I believe in marriage. I don't believe that all productivity must depend on externally defined roles. And that actually wouldn't work, because successful partnerships depend on the ability to pick up for each other. Especially as we age.
I'll repeat myself: my opinions and insight are good. If I'm saying something that you disagree with, odds are it's you who need to rethink. I'm logical & rational, I've written it all down, and I continue to evolve the concepts. Whatever preconceptions and self-interest causes you to push back against my advice so hard, stop. Listen to me.

p.s. You keep reading hidden meaning into what I'm writing: I say men & women are not equal, you hear subjugation or exclusion. I certainly don't subjugate or exclude the women around me, just the opposite if anything, but I do keep expectations real.
I listen to what you say. You haven't given me advice on the sexes, though, which would be kinda a waste of time as I'm not exactly looking for a new relationship and my manager is so much younger than me that age is a greater barrier than gender. I've also been married for a long time to what you probably would call the king of the 7th grade gym. Which I will never understand in this lifetime because he's pretty devoted to helping other people, while brooking no dissent. Huge dichotomy to me but I actually do accept it as a gender difference. That said, I hear subjugation in your voice. If you are correct, then you see it as part of the game. I see it as a slight which must be avenged. :twisted:
Sounds like an alpha. 'Helping other people' to a female, involves emotional support. To a man, it's more about setting them on the right track.
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Re: Responsibility

Post by MilSpecs » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:53 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:That said, I hear subjugation in your voice. If you are correct, then you see it as part of the game. I see it as a slight which must be avenged. :twisted:
Thar's the problem. Men are mostly still clueless that they are at war.

p.s. I don't know your husband. I'd have to be in a room with him and other men for a couple hours to tell.
Honestly, you wouldn't find him fun. He doesn't do philosophy or speculation of any kind. He makes me look impractical, which takes some doing. He's not in charge because he seeks it out - someone just needs to take charge and it's his forte. He is the rock we all depend on here. I can't think of any higher praise I could give him.
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Re: Responsibility

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:04 pm

As Jordan Peterson says, women are evolutionary attracted to manly men, meaning they are attracted to men who have excelled in the dominance hierarchy. You may be unaware of the dominance hierarchies around you but you are sure your man is successful at them because you see him exhibiting man-like traits & attributes. At the top of the hierarchies are wealth, power, and reproductive success, meaning the offspring are also successful. If you are experiencing those then your husband probably is at the top.

The fact that you post here, and it takes a strong man to be attracted to a strong female (unless the relationship is enabler-enabled), my guess is he's high enough up to have lower stress levels.
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Re: Responsibility

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:14 pm

MilSpecs wrote:I listen to what you say. You haven't given me advice on the sexes, though, which would be kinda a waste of time as I'm not exactly looking for a new relationship and my manager is so much younger than me that age is a greater barrier than gender.
Hang on.. Where did Marty tell you to start banging your boss? Or was that just the 'assumed choice' for a new relationship? :lol:
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Re: Responsibility

Post by MilSpecs » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:52 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:I listen to what you say. You haven't given me advice on the sexes, though, which would be kinda a waste of time as I'm not exactly looking for a new relationship and my manager is so much younger than me that age is a greater barrier than gender.
Hang on.. Where did Marty tell you to start banging your boss? Or was that just the 'assumed choice' for a new relationship? :lol:
My boss could be my son. Blech.

I was talking about advice dealing with men in general and those are the only two I deal with on a regular basis outside of brother and dad. And you lot. ;)
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