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Martin Hash
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Re: Responsibility

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:31 am

DBTrek wrote:Can’t think of two sources I’d trust less than StA and Martin Hash when it comes to women.

Maybe Ike Turner.

Maybe.
Jesus, man, I've been married 39 years and none of my kids have tattoos or piercing, nor have ever been in jail, and we all have good relationships. I have no idea how better to measure my insight?! I also happen to be a doctor and a lawyer with experience in these matters. What's your fucking opinion mean to me?
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Re: Responsibility

Post by DBTrek » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:33 am

I imagine it means as much as your opinion means to the rest of us.
/shrug
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Re: Responsibility

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:39 am

DBTrek wrote:I imagine it means as much as your opinion means to the rest of us.
/shrug
I know. I've been considering the issue.
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Re: Responsibility

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Re: Responsibility

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:17 am

Martin Hash wrote:Women compete poorly in the dominance hierarchy so they change the rules. Modern societal norms have become those of women: Safe Spaces, #metoo, SJWs

This is what happened to the academy. Women could not compete with males in general, so they invented fake academic programs like women's studies. Those fake academic programs proliferated as women enrollment surged, but women failed to cut the mustard in STEM programs, and the universities still wanted those sweet student loan dollars. As these programs proliferated, the relative power of the women dominating those programs increased until they cut deeply into general education requirements and then began to dictate the various universities policies. Now they are full-on indoctrinating people with their Marxist ideologies instead of teaching them anything legitimate.

A similar thing happened with African American studies. Affirmative action placed many blacks into universities that were too difficult for them, when they would have prospered at a lower-tier university. The end result was the proliferation of critical theory programs at Ivy League schools. Now those schools are mostly a joke in terms of academics. Nobody takes them seriously any longer.

In the corporate world, we see similar trends in places like Google, where instead of merit-based hiring and promotions, we see these identity groups trying to muscle out white and Asian men who generally would out-perform the other demographics as a group.

Women have a completely different approach to social matters than men. Men are more merit-based. We judge one another by capabilities and success. Women are more about group inclusion. The minute they got a foothold in these before male-dominated spaces, they quickly set themselves apart as their own group, and identified men as the enemy who had to be controlled and forced to conform to arbitrary female demands regarding conduct and even hiring practices. Think about how fucking crazy it is that women hijacked affirmative action from black people when women as a group are the majority compared to men.
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Re: Responsibility

Post by MilSpecs » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:17 am

Martin Hash wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:This isn’t two-dimensional, women have their own thing. Women aren’t equal in testosterone related aspects of life. 7th Grade Gym is real. I don’t expect, nor want, women to participate. My wife & daughter, and daughter-in-laws have their baby thing going on. I, as a man, can only offer to be responsible.
Dude, you really are a product of your culture.
A million years of evolution.
Which produced a perfect dual-component coping machine. I believe in marriage. I don't believe that all productivity must depend on externally defined roles. And that actually wouldn't work, because successful partnerships depend on the ability to pick up for each other. Especially as we age.
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Re: Responsibility

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:21 am

You wouldn't question the social structure of lions or gorillas, but Martin pointing out that homo sapiens too have evolutionary-defined social structures and gender roles gets met with the "I don't think productivity should depends upon externally defined roles".

The problem here is that we have sapience, which allows us to defy our evolutionary-defined psychology and social behavior. Maybe that's a good thing in some cases; probably bad in most cases; but you have to at least acknowledge the costs and consequences of violating human nature at some point.

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Re: Responsibility

Post by DrYouth » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:26 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:I might be wrong here. Not totally sure. Just suspicions based on interactions. In a lot of ways, I am jealous of them for the freedom they possess from women. But then.. the sex would be pretty revolting, so I guess Tesla had the practical solution.
These two posts reflecting on the advantages of homosexuality are maybe some of the most surprising posts I have read on the forum...
Other than that STA is attracted to feminists as partners.

The forum has more twists than any fiction I read.
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Re: Responsibility

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:44 am

MilSpecs wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:
Dude, you really are a product of your culture.
A million years of evolution.
Which produced a perfect dual-component coping machine. I believe in marriage. I don't believe that all productivity must depend on externally defined roles. And that actually wouldn't work, because successful partnerships depend on the ability to pick up for each other. Especially as we age.
I'll repeat myself: my opinions and insight are good. If I'm saying something that you disagree with, odds are it's you who need to rethink. I'm logical & rational, I've written it all down, and I continue to evolve the concepts. Whatever preconceptions and self-interest causes you to push back against my advice so hard, stop. Listen to me.

p.s. You keep reading hidden meaning into what I'm writing: I say men & women are not equal, you hear subjugation or exclusion. I certainly don't subjugate or exclude the women around me, just the opposite if anything, but I do keep expectations real.
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Re: Responsibility

Post by DrYouth » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:58 am

Martin Hash wrote:p.s. You keep reading hidden meaning into what I'm writing: I say men & women are not equal, you hear subjugation or exclusion. I certainly don't subjugate or exclude the women around me, just the opposite if anything, but I do keep expectations real.
So I agree...

Men and Women are not equal.

Men are stronger than women physically for the most part. Women are for the most part more nurturing.

Men are wired to engage in dominance hierarchies in a different way than women.
Both men and women form dominance hierarchies.
Men compete more with regards to physical dominance and women more with regards to relationship status...

But both genders do some of both... Men can be sensitive to relationship status... and some women play the physical dominance game...
That being said men and women are for the most part specialists in their arenas... and somewhat clueless in the other genders arena.

This leads to a lot of misunderstandings across the genders.
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