Women & Respect

[Speaker to Animals]

Came across another interesting video.



I definitely don't think the MRM creates a healthy image for men to internalize (it's basically feminism for men), but I also think the way feminists label them misogynists and try to censor any discussion of men's issues shows just how much of a hate movement feminism actually is.

[DrYouth]

Looked up "Before the Dawn" online...

Checks out... at first glance...
I'm going to order it...

Then maybe go back over Hrdy's stuff and compare...

[boethius]

I thought about that monkey branching thing. While it was obviously a narrative at the outset, I don't think it's a very good one.

When younger and horny, everyone is kind of on the lookout for someone better most of the time, unless their partner is too good for them. And even then.

In more serious relationships, I think women leapfrog more than monkey branch. That is, when they decide a relationship is no good, they look for another landing spot. Men do too, but to a lesser degree.

I don't expect anyone to believe this, but a girl once left an MTV VJ for me. She was not trading up in any kind of material or social sense. She was trading way down, in fact. It was a freak occurrence. However, he was a domineering psycho and she wanted out. Luckily for me, we hit it off and she leaped from him to me.

We were together for a long time and I eventually ended it. She was extremely hot and could have traded up from me at literally any minute. But she was happy so she didn't.

Obviously, her friends were also all hot and I saw the same thing with most of them. One girl was waiting for her boyfriend to get out of prison, on a 6 month drug sentence. I finally met the guy. I was expecting some total badass. He was this introverded dweeb with a funny shaped head.

I think, if anything, most very attractive girls are not calculating enough about who they date. I used to work with another very hot girl, with whom I struck out. She also had incredible charisma and charm. But she dated some other losers. One of our older female co-workers was like, "why don't you get a job at a hospital? It's just as easy to fall in love with a doctor as a casino dealer." I thought that was really good advice, but not many women seem to follow it.

Your idea of "leapfrog" is the same as monkey branch, unless I'm misinterpreting you.

The opposite of leapfrog or monkey branch would be a woman unhappy with her current mate simply leaving him and NOT having another guy in the wings. Simply leaving, being single for a while, then looking.

My contention is that women, when they are unhappy in a relationship, do not simply leave. Instead, they start shopping around and only leave when they have secured a better offer from a new guy.

As far as what women find attractive, alpha characteristics can be as strong a pull (if not more), than magazine-cover looks, job prestige, or cash. I've seen short, fat, bald dudes exude alpha and pull more chicks than tall, fit, handsome guys who have inferior self confidence and don't exude alpha tendencies. If you aren't sure what "alpha" means, imagine you are about to fight the guy either verbally or physically. Do you think you will lose? If so, then he is likely more alpha than you.