Taxes Aren't Necessary

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Re: Taxes Aren't Necessary

Post by DBTrek » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:15 pm

Fife wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
Fife wrote:

Negative.
Then you need to lay out your Top 10 so we can determine that. I only see you snark.
Top 10 what?

Top 10 is slang for dick pic.
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Re: Taxes Aren't Necessary

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:20 pm

Fife wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:
Fife wrote:

Negative.
Then you need to lay out your Top 10 so we can determine that. I only see you snark.
Top 10 what?
Below is from my book, The Center

1. Most Liberty to Most People.
The wants of the individual come before the needs of the group, unless Due Process of Law. No aristocracy.
2. Socialized Carve-outs: Protection, Jurisprudence, Welfare (includes Social Security), Environment & Healthcare.
These five categories are the only functions that Government should actually perform, but there are other functions Government is responsible to fund and oversee, such as education & safety.
3. Productivity to Prosperity.
The goal of economics is to continually increase productivity so that people need to work less and less to live at the same level of comfort.
4. A Job for Everyone.
A Right & responsibility to have a job.
5. Corporations Are Not People.
No business taxes. Businesses cannot hold profits. Only people can make campaign contributions.
6. No Federal Taxes.
80% of the population owe no Federal Income taxes. Socialize Payroll taxes.
7. Opportunity Spreading.
Progressive taxation to push down and spread out high incomes to other tiers of workers. Incentivize investment.
8. Generational Gifting.
Previous generation creates a new generation of entrepreneurs.
9. No Government Borrowing.
Pay-as-you-go public projects. No accrued debts of any kind, most importantly, no retirement obligations.
10. Individualized Education.
Break up the teaching monopoly, and promote a wide variety of options.
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Re: Taxes Aren't Necessary

Post by Fife » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:39 pm

I've never really thought about such a list, but my principles are pretty apparent to anybody I've posted (or shitposted with) over the years.

Since I don't believe in central (or even third-party involuntary) planning, I don't have an "action agenda" of any number of items, other than to leave people alone and let nature take its course. I do have a set of "axioms" I use to analyze arguments and to make a priori evaluations.

Off the top of my head, and I mean right off the top, and unedited:

1. Private property is the most important purely human construct, beginning with your body and mind. Each of us are the sole owners of our bodies and minds.

2. Homesteading through human effort and ingenuity is the origin of property rights; not "gifts."

3. Voluntaryism : all human interactions should be voluntary, not coercive

4. Free markets are the only real indication of a thing's price (its value); accurate prices are the best way for humans to allocate scare resources. Not the "perfect" way, which doesn't exist, but the best way we've come across so far.

5. N.A.P. is the Golden Rule for good, true, virtuous Human Action. N.A.P. is also the fundamental virtue of Christianity (Jesus was not a socialist or deferential to Caesar; rather quite the opposite; and the loaves and fishes wasn't a magic trick--unless understanding the power of human compassion and cooperative effort is magic).

6. Freedom of thought is the ultimate freedom and human virtue (this is where your "natural rights" come from).

7. Tolerance and charity are right up there on the virtue list.

8. Any human association not entirely devoted to peace among nations / tribes, is up to no good.

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Re: Taxes Aren't Necessary

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:47 pm

See where we differ is I'm all about liberty, and you're all about self-interest. Nothing you wrote contradicts my claim that you're "a free-riding Royalist who thinks a small group of people justifiably own everything and take most of the opportunity."
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Re: Taxes Aren't Necessary

Post by Fife » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:58 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fife wrote:
Martin Hash wrote: Then you need to lay out your Top 10 so we can determine that. I only see you snark.
Top 10 what?

Top 10 is slang for dick pic.

Well (speaking only for myself), that might the only message I could transmit that wouldn't be subject to fallacious, blunt-force reductionism to conform to some pre-conceived dictum.

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Re: Taxes Aren't Necessary

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:30 pm

Hey, most people who post here are closer to your position than they are mine.
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