Women & Respect

[Speaker to Animals]

I personally know one exception to the single-mothers-are-the-devil rule.

However, she is an engineer, her dad is a doctor and mom a homemaker, her parents help out with her child and she's been continuously employed since graduating from college.

I'll give you three guesses as to her ethnic background, and the first two don't count.

I don't know how true it is that every society sees the same trend in single motherhood as western nations do. My wife's mother was a school teacher in Honduras, who worked to bring all her children to the US, but she was the exception among all women, not just any one group. Her daughters have all done great here. I'm talking Goldman Sachs success, literally, as in, central park adjacent NYC apartment, Goldman Sachs pay-stubs success.

But that could be more of an anecdotal case of individual greatness, not necessarily indicative of the whole. I could understand though, that in other environments where conditions were more taxing, that our trend of welfare mothers, who have little comparable struggle, is not necessarily replicated in places where single mothers deal with actual difficulties which they must rise above.

I just know that that old bird did an all star job with her mess of girls, especially considering where she started from.

The statistics are quite clear that fatherlessness (which is what we should call single motherhood in the first place) creates massive social and economic hardships for all involved. You certainly can find single mothers who managed to raise kids who are not criminals, drug addicts, thugs, or whatever else, but that's hardly the point. The point is that the likelihood of those outcome shoot up with single motherhood.

The reason societies shunned such women in the past is that we ought never encourage this kind of behavior. Instead, we began to laud women who do this and pretend like they are brave, strong, or whatever other Orwellian perversion of language we can ascribe to them.

While I don't think we should treat single mothers as they were in the past, what we are doing today is probably even worse.

[MilSpecs]

The reason societies shunned such women in the past is that we ought never encourage this kind of behavior. Instead, we began to laud women who do this and pretend like they are brave, strong, or whatever other Orwellian perversion of language we can ascribe to them.

Most single mothers in the past were abandoned or widows. Apparently no one was discouraging that kind of behavior. For the women who gave birth alone, unless they conceived immaculately there are two people who should have been shunned. Feel free to shun the one woman you believe conceived immaculately.

[Speaker to Animals]

The reason societies shunned such women in the past is that we ought never encourage this kind of behavior. Instead, we began to laud women who do this and pretend like they are brave, strong, or whatever other Orwellian perversion of language we can ascribe to them.

Most single mothers in the past were abandoned or widows. Apparently no one was discouraging that kind of behavior. For the women who gave birth alone, unless they conceived immaculately there are two people who should have been shunned. Feel free to shun the one woman you believe conceived immaculately.

Hence..

While I don't think we should treat single mothers as they were in the past, what we are doing today is probably even worse.

[MilSpecs]

The reason societies shunned such women in the past is that we ought never encourage this kind of behavior. Instead, we began to laud women who do this and pretend like they are brave, strong, or whatever other Orwellian perversion of language we can ascribe to them.

Most single mothers in the past were abandoned or widows. Apparently no one was discouraging that kind of behavior. For the women who gave birth alone, unless they conceived immaculately there are two people who should have been shunned. Feel free to shun the one woman you believe conceived immaculately.

Hence..

While I don't think we should treat single mothers as they were in the past, what we are doing today is probably even worse.

Weak, and no excuse for denigrating the many women who raised children alone because they had to.

[Speaker to Animals]

Most single mothers in the past were abandoned or widows. Apparently no one was discouraging that kind of behavior. For the women who gave birth alone, unless they conceived immaculately there are two people who should have been shunned. Feel free to shun the one woman you believe conceived immaculately.

Hence..

While I don't think we should treat single mothers as they were in the past, what we are doing today is probably even worse.

Weak, and no excuse for denigrating the many women who raised children alone because they had to.

I didn't denigrate any of them. I pointed out the FACT that single motherhood is a horrible cancer on our society, causing crime, drug abuse, economic decline, and all-around poor life outcomes.

Nothing about single motherhood ought to be encouraged or affirmed.

[MilSpecs]

Hence..

Weak, and no excuse for denigrating the many women who raised children alone because they had to.

I didn't denigrate any of them. I pointed out the FACT that single motherhood is a horrible cancer on our society, causing crime, drug abuse, economic decline, and all-around poor life outcomes.

Nothing about single motherhood ought to be encouraged or affirmed.

You got abandoned. Now imagine you were abandoned with five children and no way to support them. Damn right those women should be affirmed.

[Speaker to Animals]

Weak, and no excuse for denigrating the many women who raised children alone because they had to.

I didn't denigrate any of them. I pointed out the FACT that single motherhood is a horrible cancer on our society, causing crime, drug abuse, economic decline, and all-around poor life outcomes.

Nothing about single motherhood ought to be encouraged or affirmed.

You got abandoned. Now imagine you were abandoned with five children and no way to support them. Damn right those women should be affirmed.

I am going to have to throw the bullshit flag on that one.

BIG TIME bullshit in that post.

It's women who do this to themselves. Women are the ones blowing up marriages, abandoning husbands, alienating fathers from children for child support awards, and becoming an economic and social drain on our society.

What you just did is an example of women's hypoagency. You want to cast women as the victim so men will instinctively come to your rescue, or in this case to agree with you and help you safeguard a system of discriminatory and socially destructive laws and programs. Men are increasingly entirely uninterested in playing your white knight.

And -- news flash -- women, especially white liberal western women, are NOT victims. They are the most privileged class of people in human history. They love to play victim all the time, but it's a total farce. In fact, they are often the perpetrators. The primary victims in our society's influence in family life are men and children. Period.

[MilSpecs]

Get off the pity pot.

[Speaker to Animals]

Get off the pity pot.

Wow. Look in the mirror.

[DrYouth]

The primary victims in our society's influence in family life are men and children. Period.

Woah there... you just flipped victim status. Discussing one gender as the universal victim will still be a fallacy if you change that gender to male.
You are doing it because you believe, with some validity, that it is currently set at female... and turn around is fair play.
Do you want to cast all men as victims because some woman have been playing victim falsely, or do you want to get rid of automatic victim status for any gender.