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Re: Abortion

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:17 am

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Xenophon wrote: What?
Semen, for the uninitiated.
It is not a fertilized embryo. Therefore, not murder.
Right, so then at the moment of DNA combination, we should issue a SSN and hold a funeral in the event of miscarriage?
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Re: Abortion

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:45 am

GCF is all about "Science!" up u til it contradicts his ideology.

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Re: Abortion

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:48 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:GCF is all about "Science!" up u til it contradicts his ideology.
Not really. I'd just like some consistency in ideology.

If you're going to declare that personhood begins at DNA combination, then follow through. Otherwise, you're just weaving around a half-assed solution, in order to save feelz. That is what I'm pointing out.
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Re: Abortion

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:55 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:GCF is all about "Science!" up u til it contradicts his ideology.
Not really. I'd just like some consistency in ideology.

If you're going to declare that personhood begins at DNA combination, then follow through. Otherwise, you're just weaving around a half-assed solution, in order to save feelz. That is what I'm pointing out.

I don't know about personhood, but scientifically a human life begins at conception.

Without any good arguments to place the beginning of human personhood, the prudent and morally justifiable position to take is to assume human personhood begins when a human life begins; that all human lives are human persons. Whenever a society has before decided that human persons are a subset of human beings, some pretty bad shit tended to go down.

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Re: Abortion

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:20 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:GCF is all about "Science!" up u til it contradicts his ideology.
Not really. I'd just like some consistency in ideology.

If you're going to declare that personhood begins at DNA combination, then follow through. Otherwise, you're just weaving around a half-assed solution, in order to save feelz. That is what I'm pointing out.

I don't know about personhood, but scientifically a human life begins at conception.
This is really the only relevant part of your post. Now, what if a significant portion of people felt that human life began at birth?

Or, if you prefer, follow your own logic. If a pre-natal embryo is a fully-fledged 'human life', then it should be recognized as such. All rights, responsibilities, and benefits. Therefore, SSN, murder charges for anyone ending its life, a full funeral/death certificate on miscarriage.

Of course, rather than actually consider this, you'll simply repeat that your feelz dictate that God Hates Abortion because it's icky, and murder, but totally not the legal definition, because we aren't willing to electrocute a mother that has an abortion, or drinks her kid to death, or coat-hangers-in-the-alley-abortion. But FEELZ!
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Re: Abortion

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Re: Abortion

Post by Okeefenokee » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:36 pm



Abortion at 9 months is the same as a c-section.

I found rant.
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Re: Abortion

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:29 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:

Abortion at 9 months is the same as a c-section.

I found rant.
There is no abortion beyond 6 months in the US.
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Re: Abortion

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Re: Abortion

Post by Okeefenokee » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:36 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:

Abortion at 9 months is the same as a c-section.

I found rant.
There is no abortion beyond 6 months in the US.
Guess who commented without even watching?
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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