Printing Money For UBI

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Re: Printing Money For UBI

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed May 09, 2018 11:46 am

Neocons are worse than a single mother with your credit card.

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Re: Printing Money For UBI

Post by JohnDonne » Wed May 09, 2018 6:39 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:That's not your dollar.
And yet it is. I earn my money and pay taxes and even have a dollar to spare the bums by and by.

The tendency of technological progress suggests Eternal labor’s yoke will one day be lifted, without a doubt this will result in production exceeding our wildest dreams. Given this, the logical choice seems to be: spread this massive wealth in such a way that allows these former menial laborers to live well and pursue knowledge.

Or you could just keep saying “you didn’t earn it” over and over again while society crumbles in the face of massive social unrest.

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Re: Printing Money For UBI

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed May 09, 2018 6:44 pm

I think technology will become a thing of its own. Nobody will own it. It will be like the air. Self-replicating machines. Nano factory farms. If you want something, you just order it. I have the opposite opinion of machines from Hollywood faggots. I think it's a good thing. AI city managers. Bring it on. AI factories. Yes.

But getting from here to there.. not sure how that happens without huge wars.

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Re: Printing Money For UBI

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed May 09, 2018 6:48 pm

DBTrek wrote:Sowell would point out that one big thing you both miss about our foreign debt holders is that it speaks to their confidence in the strength of the American economy. So there is that aspect you both are completely overlooking.

No one is buying Rwanda’s debt.
It’s confidence in the strength of our military. Nothing more.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Printing Money For UBI

Post by Fife » Wed May 09, 2018 6:58 pm

JohnDonne wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:That's not your dollar.
And yet it is. I earn my money and pay taxes and even have a dollar to spare the bums by and by.

The tendency of technological progress suggests Eternal labor’s yoke will one day be lifted, without a doubt this will result in production exceeding our wildest dreams. Given this, the logical choice seems to be: spread this massive wealth in such a way that allows these former menial laborers to live well and pursue knowledge.

Or you could just keep saying “you didn’t earn it” over and over again while society crumbles in the face of massive social unrest.
Oh, you earned *something,* precious. I just don't know if you earned *it.*

Is there some entity telling you that you can't give whatever you have to some bum on the roadside? No?

You can work your ass off and give your earnings to whatever bum you choose, as far as I know. Who's stopping you?

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Re: Printing Money For UBI

Post by JohnDonne » Wed May 09, 2018 7:32 pm

Fife wrote:
JohnDonne wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:That's not your dollar.
And yet it is. I earn my money and pay taxes and even have a dollar to spare the bums by and by.

The tendency of technological progress suggests Eternal labor’s yoke will one day be lifted, without a doubt this will result in production exceeding our wildest dreams. Given this, the logical choice seems to be: spread this massive wealth in such a way that allows these former menial laborers to live well and pursue knowledge.

Or you could just keep saying “you didn’t earn it” over and over again while society crumbles in the face of massive social unrest.
Oh, you earned *something,* precious. I just don't know if you earned *it.*

Is there some entity telling you that you can't give whatever you have to some bum on the roadside? No?

You can work your ass off and give your earnings to whatever bum you choose, as far as I know. Who's stopping you?
No one, which coincidentally is the same answer to the question "who suggested someone was stopping me?"

Is there some entity preventing you from John Galting yourself on a desert island? So why all the opinions about the tax-theft government, brah? You can go live your opinion in the most disorganized fashion, a billion times less efficiently, and it's just as good as if it was done on a massively organized way, according to your own wisdom.

What's the difference between a person laying a couple bricks down, calling it good, verse having a public library? The difference is all in the mind.

What's the difference between having an intricate interstate highway, and a parking lot? Mind.
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Re: Printing Money For UBI

Post by Fife » Wed May 09, 2018 7:37 pm

JohnDonne wrote:Is there some entity preventing you from John Galting yourself on a desert island? So why all the opinions about the tax-theft government, brah? You can go live your opinion in the most disorganized fashion, a billion times less efficiently, and it's just as good as if it was done on a massively organized way, according to your own wisdom.
Yes.

What?

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Re: Printing Money For UBI

Post by JohnDonne » Wed May 09, 2018 7:40 pm

Fife wrote:
JohnDonne wrote:Is there some entity preventing you from John Galting yourself on a desert island? So why all the opinions about the tax-theft government, brah? You can go live your opinion in the most disorganized fashion, a billion times less efficiently, and it's just as good as if it was done on a massively organized way, according to your own wisdom.
Yes.

What?
Who is preventing you from John Galting yourself?

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Re: Printing Money For UBI

Post by Fife » Wed May 09, 2018 7:47 pm

JohnDonne wrote:
Fife wrote:
JohnDonne wrote:Is there some entity preventing you from John Galting yourself on a desert island? So why all the opinions about the tax-theft government, brah? You can go live your opinion in the most disorganized fashion, a billion times less efficiently, and it's just as good as if it was done on a massively organized way, according to your own wisdom.
Yes.

What?
Who is preventing you from John Galting yourself?
No one.

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Re: Printing Money For UBI

Post by JohnDonne » Wed May 09, 2018 7:51 pm

Great, I did some checking, I guess most desert islands are claimed by one country or another, but you could still get a big boat, denounce your citizenship and float around in international waters. Thanks for all the opinions about government, but since nobody is stopping you personally from acting out your ideas, there's no point in implementing your ideas on a large scale, apparently.