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Re: The Fed

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:18 am

I need a better Jeep, then.

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Re: The Fed

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:25 am

Treasuries are virtually zero interest.
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Re: The Fed

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:27 am

The debt could be 100 times bigger. What difference would it make?
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Re: The Fed

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:34 am

What if you the Fed’s portion of the Debt, $4 trillion, was simply cancelled? Who would know or care?
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Re: The Fed

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:43 am

Martin Hash wrote:What if you the Fed’s portion of the Debt, $4 trillion, was simply cancelled? Who would know or care?
The Fed holds more like $10 trillion, I think.

The banksters that make up the Fed would care. A lot. And since they're in control of monetary policy, they'd never allow it to happen.
You'd be taking $10 trillion or so directly out of the hands of the nation's top bankers.

Also, it should be noted that the Fedsters are running the Plunge Protection Team, and shorting the VIX in absurd amounts. So you could expect some pretty wild west moves in the stock market, as soon as they stopped that activity.
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Re: The Fed

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:00 am

No real banks hold that debt, it’s just an accounting scheme that holds no one responsible.

"It is as if the Treasurys bought by the Fed didn't exist. But they do exist on the Fed's balance sheet. Technically, the Treasury must pay the Fed back one day. Until then, the Fed has given the federal government more money to spend. That increases the money supply, thus monetizing the debt."
How Is the Fed Monetizing the U.S. Debt?
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Re: The Fed

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:23 am

Martin Hash wrote:No real banks hold that debt, it’s just an accounting scheme that holds no one responsible.

"It is as if the Treasurys bought by the Fed didn't exist. But they do exist on the Fed's balance sheet. Technically, the Treasury must pay the Fed back one day. Until then, the Fed has given the federal government more money to spend. That increases the money supply, thus monetizing the debt."
How Is the Fed Monetizing the U.S. Debt?
Who collects the interest.
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Re: The Fed

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:24 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:No real banks hold that debt, it’s just an accounting scheme that holds no one responsible.

"It is as if the Treasurys bought by the Fed didn't exist. But they do exist on the Fed's balance sheet. Technically, the Treasury must pay the Fed back one day. Until then, the Fed has given the federal government more money to spend. That increases the money supply, thus monetizing the debt."
How Is the Fed Monetizing the U.S. Debt?
Who collects the interest.
There is no interest. This is how money is "printed."
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Re: The Fed

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:31 am

Martin Hash wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:No real banks hold that debt, it’s just an accounting scheme that holds no one responsible.

"It is as if the Treasurys bought by the Fed didn't exist. But they do exist on the Fed's balance sheet. Technically, the Treasury must pay the Fed back one day. Until then, the Fed has given the federal government more money to spend. That increases the money supply, thus monetizing the debt."
How Is the Fed Monetizing the U.S. Debt?
Who collects the interest.
There is no interest.
The interest is set when the bond is issued, no matter what the current rates are. 30-year bonds are still paying 10-20%, 10-years are still paying 5-10%.
On $20 TRILLION, that's no small amount of money.

That all comes due at bond maturity, and is collected by the holder. Meanwhile, it has to be set aside ahead of time. And every single time there's a bond auction, which happens every month.
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Re: The Fed

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:40 am

WTF? Your brain is broken.

But Google isn't.
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