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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:58 am

after you cover the Glorious Revolution

you might as well just skip to Hanover from there

French & Indian Seven Years War

Nouvelle France & the Raj in India, conquered on the same day, 10 February 1763

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 12:14 pm

genius is just about making the complex simple

so first off you need a command voice, no umming & ahing, clean that up

then you need structure, don't just blue sky, tell a story, make it clear

then don't wander all over the place waxing & waffling

hit the key inflection points, the moments of destiny

Glorious Revolution : Battle of the Boyne

Seven Years War : Wolfe at Quebec, Clive of India

War of Independence : surrender at Yorktown

the Empire Strikes Back : War of 1812

Nelson defeats the French on the high seas at Trafalgar

Wellington defeats the France once & for all at Waterloo

the Empire breaks itself for Belgian Neutrality at the Somme

Britain comes to Wall Street cap in hand for a bail out

end British Empire, hand off to the Anglo-American Empire of Liberty

bottom line tho, Britain does not become a world power until 1690

France was the global Hegemon : until the Glorious Revolution Britain was a relative backwater

the rise of the British Empire is the story of taking the French down by way of liberalization

America then takes the British down, beating them at their own game
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 12:50 pm

see, this is what is propping the Pax Americana up

America is not in great shape, America is a bit of a disaster area right now

but it's all relative

America doesn't have to be perfect, America just has to be better than the rest

the only way to take America down as the Global Hegemon, is to beat America at her own game

there would have to be a challenger who is more liberal than America

but no such challenger exists, nor is there one on the horizon

so America can't get away with shit, because nobody is better

there is no competition

there is no America v. the World

America is only competing against herself

hence why all the tension

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:23 pm

I mean, the real fiscal gap is $160 trillion if you add it all up

so all the American debt held by the Chinese is worthless on the long view

but what can they do ?

there is nowhere to dump America's debt

there is nowhere to go, there is no other America to run to

so despite all of America's internal strife

America has the world by the balls

so just kick back and enjoy it, there is no future, there is only now

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Post by DrYouth » Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:34 pm

Liberal was the leftward limit at the time of the Glorious Revolution.

But then liberalism developed a far shore.

Socialism and then Communism.

And France crossed that Rubicon with the farthest extents of the French Revolution.

But America found the sweet spot...

It took the best of the Glorious Revolution and made it more Glorious and defended the world from the excesses of the Marxist Revolution.

Britain and then gradually the rest of Europe has followed the American model... (some more than others)

America is still the leader of the Free World... and that doesn't seem to be changing any time soon.

It may be threatened by the Cultural Marxists and the Illiberal Right.... but it seems poised to thread that needle as it has always done.

We should all be rooting for them... because If America fails... we will all be the worse for it.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:56 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:34 pm
Liberal was the leftward limit at the time of the Glorious Revolution.

But then liberalism developed a far shore.

Socialism and then Communism.
no, that is not liberalism

the French Revolution was not liberal, nether was the Russian Revolution

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Post by Martin Hash » Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:48 pm

The Enlightenment, Modernity, is "liberal."

Post-Modern, Socialism and it's most virulent wing, Marxism, is decidedly illiberal.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:53 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:48 pm
The Enlightenment, Modernity, is "liberal."

Post-Modern, Socialism and it's most virulent wing, Marxism, is decidedly illiberal.
the left was born of the French Revolution, they were never liberal

the liberals went to war against the left right away

first thing the Glorious Revolution did was declare war against the Commune in France
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:57 pm

the key is not to conflate the left with liberalism

liberalism is in fact the right, it's not the far right, but liberalism is conservative

the left was never liberal, the left was born in the streets in the French Revolution

at which point it was adversarial to liberalism and has been ever since

the Glorious Revolution to the War Indepedence, that's liberalism

the French Revolution to the Russian Revolution, that's the left

they're not the same thing despite the common conflation in America of calling leftists "liberals"

the left has always been illiberal, it's ultimate lever is always mobs legislating from the streets

whenever the left loses an election, they try to overthrow the result in some sort of revolt
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